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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #100: August 27, 2014, 05:31:34 PM »
SF may disagree. He loves him some young prospects.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #101: August 28, 2014, 10:04:03 AM »
One thing to think about with Fister is that he has mostly been a guy whose defense independent pitching projections are close to his ERA.  3.40 ERA for his career, 3.50 FIP (xFIP and SIERA are a bit higher at 3.69 and 3.77).  This year is the first year since 2009  where ERA and FIP have been more than a run apart.  That suggests some increase in the ERA is quite possible. 

His HR/FB rate is close to his last two years in Detroit now.  Groundball rate is down a bit from 2012 and 2013. BABIP at .273 is low for a groundball, low K pitcher and low for him.  Lefties are hitting Flies off him nearly as often as they are hitting grounders (40% GB, 38% FB); they aren't popping out (4.7%), but the HR/FB is low (7.4%) in comparison to 2013 (9.7%) and 2012 (10.0%).  Vs. righties, he's gone from ~3:1 GB:FB (60:20) in 2012 and 2013 to less than 2:1 (55:30), and righties are taking him deep at roughly double his career rate (14.5% v. 8.8%) (2012 HR/FB was comparable to 2014, but 2013 was 7.4%).  Also has had drop in pop out rate v. righties.

My point here in the playoff rotation thread goes back to the JZ v. Fister and what to expect in the playoffs argument.  I think expecting Fister to duplicate the ERA advantage he has had over JZ so far this year, which is a big part of the argument he should start games 1 and potential game 5 in the NLDS, is a shaky prediction based on the numerous yellow flags that suggest his ERA is due to rise.  That said,  you can make the experience argument in his favor.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #102: August 28, 2014, 12:10:42 PM »
I feel like JZ has simply earned the 1 spot by his time with the team and his consistently high level of performance. He is having an ace caliber year.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #103: August 28, 2014, 12:42:39 PM »
I feel like JZ has simply earned the 1 spot by his time with the team and his consistently high level of performance. He is having an ace caliber year.

He's also got swing and miss stuff - which is muy bueno for post season success ...

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #104: August 28, 2014, 02:24:28 PM »
I feel like JZ has simply earned the 1 spot by his time with the team and his consistently high level of performance. He is having an ace caliber year.

If Fister struggles anymore, you are right. He was our All Star nominee for a reason.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #105: August 29, 2014, 07:35:20 PM »
If JZimm beats King Felix tonight he should start the first game of the PO. Let Fister start the second. SS by virtue of his status with the FO would start the third at home

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #106: August 29, 2014, 08:43:13 PM »
If JZimm beats King Felix tonight he should start the first game of the PO. Let Fister start the second. SS by virtue of his status with the FO would start the third at home
You don't think we'll hold on to one of the top two spots?

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #107: August 29, 2014, 09:14:54 PM »
You don't think we'll hold on to one of the top two spots?

My thoughts as well ...

So I would start Zimmermann at home followed by Stras

Start Fister on the Road, followed by Gio

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #108: August 29, 2014, 10:02:15 PM »
I feel like JZ has simply earned the 1 spot by his time with the team and his consistently high level of performance. He is having an ace caliber year.

While the second part of your statement is backable I'm not buying starting someone based on their time with the team.  Put your best pitcher out there for the first game.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #109: August 30, 2014, 09:02:54 AM »
You don't think we'll hold on to one of the top two spots?

Sorry, Didn't factor that in. Still like the 1-2-3.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #110: September 05, 2014, 12:49:59 PM »
In my opinion who ends the game is more what we should be worrying about. If the series were on the line and it was the ninth inning and a one run lead to protect who could we trust most to get those last 3 outs.

Storen screwed up that situation for us once already, Clippard has blown the last couple of save ops he has been given and Soriano is not the person I want to pin all our pennant race hopes and dreams on...




I feel like any of our starters could come through for us but the closer situation scares me.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #111: September 05, 2014, 12:51:34 PM »
In my opinion who ends the game is more what we should be worrying about. If the series were on the line and it was the ninth inning and a one run lead to protect who could we trust most to get those last 3 outs.

Storen screwed up that situation for us once already, Clippard has blown the last couple of save ops he has been given and Soriano is not the person I want to pin all our pennant race hopes and dreams on...




I feel like any of our starters could come through for us but the closer situation scares me.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #112: September 05, 2014, 01:18:08 PM »
Thornton!       :stir:

Honestly, the eye test says he's the one with the best stuff but I'd like to see more of him this September.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #113: September 05, 2014, 01:25:32 PM »
I feel like any of our starters could come through for us but the closer situation scares me.

Boswell:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/nationals-wouldnt-look-at-all-out-of-place-in-the-world-series/2014/09/04/e1fcb396-343a-11e4-9e92-0899b306bbea_story.html

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Someone just whispered “Rafael Soriano.” Let me whisper back: Santiago Casilla, Jose Valverde (3.78 ERA), Fernando Salas, Brad Lidge (7.21), Troy Percival (4.53), Brian Fuentes, Jason Isringhausen (3.55), Todd Jones (3.94), Dustin Hermanson, Braden Looper (3.68), Keith Foulke and Byung-Hyun Kim. Common thread: They were all season save leaders on pennant winners since ’01 (lame ERAs included).


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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #115: September 05, 2014, 01:54:42 PM »
"Don’t wish these days away. One at a time will do just fine, thanks."

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #116: September 05, 2014, 03:21:04 PM »
We are blessed with one of the BEST baseball writers in the country covering our Nats in Thomas Boswell of the WAPO. A DC native and local baseball fan par excellance.





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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #117: September 05, 2014, 10:02:06 PM »
Corrected

We are blessed WITH THE BEST baseball writer in the country covering our Nats in Thomas Boswell of the WAPO. A DC native and local baseball fan par excellance.

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #119: September 06, 2014, 12:17:14 AM »
Drew will close

That is why they drafted him after all

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #120: September 06, 2014, 12:18:17 AM »
Drew will close

That is why they drafted him after all

The year of Redemption ...

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #121: September 06, 2014, 01:04:00 AM »
The year of Redemption ...
If this happens, it'll be my favorite story line of the season and it won't be close. Especially if he closes out the WS...

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #122: September 06, 2014, 01:08:42 PM »
I'd rather they care about winning than story lines. Thornton is pitching great now and, as a bonus, most nl teams haven't seen much of him

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #123: September 06, 2014, 01:15:00 PM »
Why are we wanting to replace one closer who has failed with two others who have already tried it and failed. Clippard was not good at it and even recently has blown saves. Storen lost us the most important game in franchise history. Give new blood a chance

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Re: If We Were Starting the Playoffs Today......
« Reply #124: September 07, 2014, 08:54:53 PM »
Getting back to the original topic, both Strasburg and Gio have been excellent lately.  So now you have all five starters pitching well and you could start Strasburg, JZ or Fister in the playoffs.