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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #175: July 31, 2008, 08:41:30 PM »
Milledge is pulling his head a lot and not getting good contact at all.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #176: July 31, 2008, 08:42:15 PM »
Quote from: ronnynat on July 31, 2008, 08:37:30 PM
Earl Williams, Piazza, Matt Nokes, McCann, and Fisk are a few that I know of that started their careers off on a high note. That's good company for the most part.

You forgot Johnny Bench. Check out his 1970 season when he was MVP at 22.
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #177: July 31, 2008, 08:43:06 PM »
Quote from: spidernat on July 31, 2008, 08:42:15 PM
You forgot Johnny Bench. Check out his 1970 season when he was MVP at 22.

Absolutely. I'm sure there are a lot more, too. Quite a few of 'em fizzled out after a few years, though.

Edit: Yeah, that was a money season. 

 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1970 22 CIN NL 158  605   97  177  35  4  45  148   5  2  54 102  .293  .345  .587  141  355   1  11   9   0  12 MVP-1,AS
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Offline nats2playoffs

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #178: July 31, 2008, 08:44:01 PM »
Quote from: spidernat on July 31, 2008, 08:35:11 PM
Technically Lannan has only given up 3 ER.

Technically, we have a hitting coach.

But we're still losing 5-2.

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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #179: July 31, 2008, 08:44:58 PM »
terrible Kearns.

We're awful. Kendrick owns us.
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Offline NoShoesNoShirtNoDice

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #180: July 31, 2008, 08:44:59 PM »
Another quality at-bat by future superstar Kearns.
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #181: July 31, 2008, 08:46:50 PM »
Impressive play by Belliard.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #182: July 31, 2008, 08:47:25 PM »
Roy Campanella (1951-1955). Especially 1953  :shock:
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Offline NoShoesNoShirtNoDice

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #183: July 31, 2008, 08:48:53 PM »
X-rays negative on Zim per Phils announcers.
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Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #184: July 31, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »
Quote from: spidernat on July 31, 2008, 08:33:23 PM
At some point you have to stop saying that about him. That fact cannot be changed so it could still be used 10 years from now. Are you willing to make the same excuse for WMP?
I'm saying if you compare his numbers to a Mike Piazza, it would be very comparable. Jesus is on a terrible team, and has no protection.

Mike Piazza's 1st 616 ABs (part of '92, all of '93)

.313 BA, 27 Doubles, 2 Triples, 36 HRs, 119 RBIs

Flores' 1st 391 ABs
.266 BA, 23 Doubles, 1 Triple, 11 HRs, 70 RBIs

If you take Jesus' numbers out to 606 ABs you would have:
35 Doubles, 2 Triples, 17 HRs, 109 RBIs

Jesus is doing that with no protection, and a terrible lineup. I'm not saying he is exactly up to Piazza's power numbers yet, but he will be an amazing catcher given the appropriate lineup.
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #185: July 31, 2008, 08:51:10 PM »
Are you freaking serious? Our defense tonight has been disastrous. Belliard should have ate that ball.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #186: July 31, 2008, 08:55:30 PM »
Quote from: natsfan4evr on July 31, 2008, 08:50:52 PM

Jesus is doing that with no protection, and a terrible lineup.



The Dodger team lost 100 games in '92 and was .500 in '93. You act as if that team was the '27 Yankees. That team had Lenny Harris on its roster.   :rofl:
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #187: July 31, 2008, 08:55:43 PM »
Quote from: natsfan4evr on July 31, 2008, 08:50:52 PM
I'm saying if you compare his numbers to a Mike Piazza, it would be very comparable. Jesus is on a terrible team, and has no protection.

Mike Piazza's 1st 616 ABs (part of '92, all of '93)

.313 BA, 27 Doubles, 2 Triples, 36 HRs, 119 RBIs

Flores' 1st 391 ABs
.266 BA, 23 Doubles, 1 Triple, 11 HRs, 70 RBIs

If you take Jesus' numbers out to 606 ABs you would have:
35 Doubles, 2 Triples, 17 HRs, 109 RBIs

Jesus is doing that with no protection, and a terrible lineup. I'm not saying he is exactly up to Piazza's power numbers yet, but he will be an amazing catcher given the appropriate lineup.


He just needs to get better at throwing out runners. 9 out of 42 (worse now, I think) is pretty bad. His offensive numbers should be fine.
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #188: July 31, 2008, 08:56:48 PM »
Quote from: ronnynat on July 31, 2008, 08:55:43 PM
He just needs to get better at throwing out runners. 9 out of 42 is pretty bad. His offensive numbers should be fine.
Blame our pitchers for being the absolute worst imaginable at holding runners.
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Offline nats2playoffs

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #189: July 31, 2008, 08:57:33 PM »
John Lannan tonight:
WHIP 2.12 (H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E)
EDIT: ERA 9.53 (H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E)
7 K's


I swear, Lannan looks like a silent film era actor.
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Offline 2k6nats

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #190: July 31, 2008, 08:57:53 PM »
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #191: July 31, 2008, 08:57:59 PM »
So much for trying to make outs to get out of town quicker.  :?
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Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #192: July 31, 2008, 08:58:10 PM »
Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 31, 2008, 08:56:48 PM
Blame our pitchers for being the absolute worst imaginable at holding runners.
exactly, if you can't hold a guy on base, how do you expect him to throw him out?
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #193: July 31, 2008, 08:58:16 PM »
Quote from: nats2playoffs on July 31, 2008, 08:57:33 PM
John Lannan tonight:
WHIP 2.12 (H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E)
ERA 6.35
7 K's

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I swear, Lannan looks like a silent film era actor.
He would have had a quality start if the defense backed him up. He was bad regardless though.
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Offline spidernat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #194: July 31, 2008, 08:58:48 PM »
Quote from: ronnynat on July 31, 2008, 08:55:43 PM
He just needs to get better at throwing out runners. 9 out of 42 (worse now, I think) is pretty bad. His offensive numbers should be fine.

Plus he's calling an awful game tonight. :lol:
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #195: July 31, 2008, 09:01:01 PM »
Quote from: natsfan4evr on July 31, 2008, 08:58:10 PM
exactly, if you can't hold a guy on base, how do you expect him to throw him out?

I'm sure other catchers deal w/ the same stuff, but they throw more guys out.
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #196: July 31, 2008, 09:01:27 PM »
Quote from: ronnynat on July 31, 2008, 09:01:01 PM
I'm sure other catchers deal w/ the same stuff, but they throw more guys out.
Our pitchers are unquestionably the worst in the league at holding runners.
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Offline natsfan4evr

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #197: July 31, 2008, 09:01:57 PM »
Quote from: ronnynat on July 31, 2008, 09:01:01 PM
I'm sure other catchers deal w/ the same stuff, but they throw more guys out.
Not all catchers can be Russel Martin
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Offline ronnynat

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #198: July 31, 2008, 09:02:12 PM »
Quote from: sportsfan882 on July 31, 2008, 09:01:27 PM
Our pitchers are unquestionably the worst in the league at holding runners.

How many teams do you watch regularly again?
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Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals vs Phillies, Game 3
« Reply #199: July 31, 2008, 09:03:05 PM »
Manning blows.  :roll:
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