Author Topic: MLB & Division Watching (2012) (Read 170596 times)

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2650:** August 24, 2012, 05:58:37 PM »

Why would the Red Sox dump A Gon and Crawford? Are they ready to tank for the next 5 years?

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2651:** August 24, 2012, 06:02:38 PM »

yet somehow PA continues to blame Kasten for being "cheap".

as kilgore says, kasten wasn't the one who kept the low payroll here. IT WAS THE LERNER FAMILY.

CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP!

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #2652:** August 24, 2012, 08:22:07 PM »

Are the sox admitting they can't spend with the Yankees?

PANatsFan · « **Reply #2653:** August 24, 2012, 08:23:13 PM »

Quote from: hammondsnats on August 24, 2012, 06:02:38 PM

yet somehow PA continues to blame Kasten for being "cheap".

as kilgore says, kasten wasn't the one who kept the low payroll here. IT WAS THE LERNER FAMILY.

CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP!

You are an idiot - its like you are the GM of the Dodgers, collecting expensive terrible players for no reason - The Nats are better and will be so for years

Clever · « **Reply #2654:** August 24, 2012, 09:44:03 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on August 24, 2012, 05:58:37 PM

Why would the Red Sox dump A Gon and Crawford? Are they ready to tank for the next 5 years?

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2655:** August 24, 2012, 11:01:43 PM »

Sheets is throwing BP tonight, he's fallen apart over his last few starts. Stuff way down.

Hinske is a disaster in LF.

2-1 Braves leading in the 3rd

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2656:** August 24, 2012, 11:07:05 PM »

Sandoval scores the tying run on a wild pitch with 2 outs

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2657:** August 24, 2012, 11:24:38 PM »

Pagan RBI triple gives Giants 3-2 lead

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2658:** August 24, 2012, 11:45:19 PM »

Sheets out after 4.1 innings. Runners on second and third with one out. 4-2 SF

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2659:** August 25, 2012, 01:09:16 PM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on August 24, 2012, 08:23:13 PM

You are an idiot - its like you are the GM of the Dodgers, collecting expensive terrible players for no reason - The Nats are better and will be so for years

yeah crawford and gonzalez are terrible players

dude you have to be related to the family haha

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2660:** August 25, 2012, 01:28:54 PM »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on August 24, 2012, 08:22:07 PM

Are the sox admitting they can't spend with the Yankees?

They've always thought that. Recognizing that they have had near the 2d highest payroll each year since 2002, most of that time the NYY's payroll was 40% greater than the Red Sox.

Per USAToday database:
$MM Pay
BOS/NYY
2002 108 /125 (14%)
2003 100/153 (53%)
2004 127/184 (45%)
2005 124/208 (68%)
2006 120/195 (63%)
2007 143/190 (33%)
2008 133/209 (57%)
2009 122/201 (65%)
2010 162/207 (28%)
2011 162/203 (25%)
2012 173/198 (14%)

So the era of going head to head with the NYY was this year. Oddly enough, 2002 was an inherited budget from the prior ownership. The stupid spending over the past few year more or less put them back where they were in 2002.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2661:** August 25, 2012, 01:32:48 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on August 25, 2012, 01:28:54 PM

They've always thought that. Recognizing that they have had near the 2d highest payroll each year since 2002, most of that time the NYY's payroll was 40% greater than the Red Sox.

Per USAToday database:
$MM Pay
BOS/NYY
2002 108 /125
2003 100/153
2004 127/184
2005 124/208
2006 120/195
2007 143/190
2008 133/209
2009 122/201
2010 162/207
2011 162/203
2012 173/198

good stat. that's amazing. while i want the nats to spend more, you don't have to go to the yankees level. absurd.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2662:** August 25, 2012, 01:38:10 PM »

Basically, they constipated the roster with their recent spending and this trade is the ex-lax.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2663:** August 25, 2012, 01:59:03 PM »

Wow Sheets to DL, Miguel Batista called up

houston-nat · « **Reply #2664:** August 25, 2012, 02:26:15 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on August 25, 2012, 01:59:03 PM

Wow Sheets to DL, Miguel Batista called up

Ben Sheets has "right shoulder inflammation." I feel so sorry for that poor guy.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #2665:** August 25, 2012, 02:50:19 PM »

i've always liked sheets. just can't stay healthy. he was throwing really well earlier, but the injury bug has come back to bite and he was ineffective recently. the braves should just go to a 5-man rotation, but it would be of assistance to us if batista is pitching.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #2666:** August 25, 2012, 03:26:35 PM »

Dodgers are stacked.

blue911 · « **Reply #2667:** August 25, 2012, 04:46:40 PM »

The Mets need to place Bay on waivers

Vega · « **Reply #2668:** August 25, 2012, 04:48:37 PM »

Tim McCarver needs to be exiled to a nursing home.

sportsfan882 · « **Reply #2669:** August 25, 2012, 04:51:43 PM »

Bumgarner is dog crap. 3-run HR served up to Heyward

Vega · « **Reply #2670:** August 25, 2012, 04:53:31 PM »

Bumgarner is... A BUM!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #2671:** August 25, 2012, 04:59:57 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on August 25, 2012, 01:28:54 PM

They've always thought that. Recognizing that they have had near the 2d highest payroll each year since 2002, most of that time the NYY's payroll was 40% greater than the Red Sox.

Per USAToday database:
$MM Pay
BOS/NYY
2002 108 /125 (14%)
2003 100/153 (53%)
2004 127/184 (45%)
2005 124/208 (68%)
2006 120/195 (63%)
2007 143/190 (33%)
2008 133/209 (57%)
2009 122/201 (65%)
2010 162/207 (28%)
2011 162/203 (25%)
2012 173/198 (14%)

So the era of going head to head with the NYY was this year. Oddly enough, 2002 was an inherited budget from the prior ownership. The stupid spending over the past few year more or less put them back where they were in 2002.

Let me rephrase, the Yankees spend to avoid ever having a rebuilding year, the red sox seemed to be doing the same (ie spending to be a perennial contender) is that era over.?

Vega · « **Reply #2672:** August 25, 2012, 05:08:43 PM »

Dan Uggla is sort of sucking this year.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #2673:** August 25, 2012, 05:53:42 PM »

Huh, Sheets lasted longer than I thought he would. Was a nice story while it lasted.

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #2674:** August 25, 2012, 06:50:08 PM »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on August 25, 2012, 04:59:57 PM

Let me rephrase, the Yankees spend to avoid ever having a rebuilding year, the red sox seemed to be doing the same (ie spending to be a perennial contender) is that era over.?

don't know. the FA market isn't so good, and maybe they have seen that buying pitching (re-signing Beckett, signing Lackey) rather than developing it (Lester, Buchholz, Doubront) is not an effective strategy. They have been pretty lousy at playing the high end of the FA game over the years. Retaining Ellsbury is probably the next big decision.