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Who should start in RF?

Justin Maxwell
6 (17.1%)
Mike Morse
4 (11.4%)
Willie Harris
17 (48.6%)
Free Agent (Jermaine Dye, etc)
2 (5.7%)
Other (Bernadina, Tavarez, etc)
6 (17.1%)

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Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #76: March 26, 2010, 01:21:44 AM »
I somehow had blacked it out of my thoughts.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #77: March 26, 2010, 08:43:12 AM »
I voted for Harris but I'm open to the idea of platoon him with someone if that "someone" shows promise.  Can't say I'm very high on Maxwell or Morse after watching them play (for different reasons) but I'd had to cede an entire season of potential development by just playing Harris all the time.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #78: March 26, 2010, 12:05:02 PM »
Last night I looked up a thread I started last Sepetember dedicated to Willie Harris.  Most of us had nothing but high praise for Willie, but a lot of comments were along the lines of "love Willie as a bench player, not everyday". 

Some obviously have been going by the beat of a different drum now, we'll see.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #79: March 26, 2010, 12:05:32 PM »
Last September we thought we were going to have better options.  Harris is obviously not an every day corner OFer, but with things as they are, he's the best option we've got in-house.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #80: March 26, 2010, 12:10:31 PM »
Since Maxwell looks like he can't even hit a simple fastball; I agree with Chief's statement.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #81: March 26, 2010, 12:10:36 PM »
Last September we thought we were going to have better options.  Harris is obviously not an every day corner OFer, but with things as they are, he's the best option we've got in-house.

Well yeah, we thought Dukes would be the guy.  

All I'm saying is the more I thought about it, I wouldn't mind bringing in Jermaine Dye and let him play 100-120 games, then Willie Harris (with Mike Morse/Justin Maxwell/whoever sprinkled in to) play the rest.  

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #82: March 26, 2010, 12:11:11 PM »
Well yeah, we thought Dukes would be the guy. 

All I'm saying is I wouldn't mind bringing in Jermaine Dye and let him play 100-120 games, then Willie Harris (with Mike Morse/Justin Maxwell/whoever sprinkled in to) play the rest. 

Dye was terrible last year at the plate and moves like Dunn in the OF. Bad combination.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #83: March 26, 2010, 12:13:16 PM »
Dye was terrible last year at the plate and moves like Dunn in the OF. Bad combination.

Well with all high and mighty tony plush out there, we'll be fine 8)

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #84: March 26, 2010, 12:14:04 PM »
Doesn't fix his bat from last year, though.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #85: March 26, 2010, 12:26:37 PM »
Doesn't fix his bat from last year, though.


yeah a .250 average, 27 homers, 81 rbi, .340 obp is god awful offensive production, especially with what we are considering throwing out there?

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #86: March 26, 2010, 12:33:40 PM »
Haven't we already seen enough horrible outfielders to last us a lifetime?  Sure, we may have seen some that were as bad or worse than Dye, but it did not work then and it will not work now.  The Jim Bowden style of thinking is gone, they should be looking for pitching and defense, not another guy with good offensive potential (i.e. good power, not so good average/OBP) that can't field a lick.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #87: March 26, 2010, 12:38:25 PM »
Aside from the homers, I doubt that line is much better than what we could expect from Harris playing every day anyway.

Where do people think he'll be hitting in the order?

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #88: March 26, 2010, 12:39:02 PM »
Aside from the homers, I doubt that line is much better than what we could expect from Harris playing every day anyway.

Where do people think he'll be hitting in the order?

Harris will probably bat 7-8

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #89: March 26, 2010, 12:41:44 PM »
That was my first thought as well, depending on whether Nieves or Pudge is playing that day.  But given his OBP and occasional pop, I could easily see batting him higher depending on the rest of the lineup.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #90: March 26, 2010, 12:44:20 PM »
That was my first thought as well, depending on whether Nieves or Pudge is playing that day.  But given his OBP and occasional pop, I could easily see batting him higher depending on the rest of the lineup.

true...

CF Morgan
2B Kennedy
3B Zimmerman
1B Dunn
LF Willingham
C Rodriguez
SS Desmond
RF Harris

or

CF Morgan
SS Guzman
3B Zimmerman
1B Dunn
LF Willingham
C Rodriguez
RF Harris
2B Kennedy

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #91: March 26, 2010, 12:50:13 PM »
I could easily see him batting as high as 6th on days when Nieves is catching.  Then again he didn't do very well in that spot last year, so maybe not.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #92: March 26, 2010, 12:56:47 PM »
If Desmond is given the job, how long do you think he stays in the 7 hole?  I think by the end of the year he could find himself in the 6 hole or perhaps even in the 2 hole with Kennedy dropping to the 6 spot.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #93: March 26, 2010, 01:04:09 PM »
If Desmond is given the job, how long do you think he stays in the 7 hole?  I think by the end of the year he could find himself in the 6 hole or perhaps even in the 2 hole with Kennedy dropping to the 6 spot.

It's a great question.  Honestly, if he hits like he did last year and for most of this spring, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the 2-hole sandwiched between Nyjer and Zim (much like a Derek Jeter).

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #94: March 26, 2010, 01:10:38 PM »
I think 2-hole would be great for Desmond with his skillset, but we are really jumping ahead here.  Let's wait and see how he does when the league adjusts to him.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #95: March 26, 2010, 01:25:15 PM »
Kennedy belongs in the two spot... or leadoff depending on how Nyjer hits.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #96: March 26, 2010, 01:28:41 PM »
Right now he does, but as Desmond gets established, that'd be a good place for him too.  I wouldn't be suprised to see him get a shot at the two hole with Kennedy cleaning up behing Dunn and Hammer.  That's not a bad problem to have.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #97: March 26, 2010, 01:44:56 PM »
I could easily see him batting as high as 6th on days when Nieves is catching.  Then again he didn't do very well in that spot last year, so maybe not.

Blah, nevermind that I said this.  Totally forgot about Desmond.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #98: March 26, 2010, 04:22:07 PM »
yeah and i was talking about the outfield. 

And Dye plays RF.  They are different spots that require different reads and somewhat different skill sets.  Dye is the worst defensive RF in baseball.

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Re: Who should start in RF?
« Reply #99: March 26, 2010, 04:39:55 PM »
And Dye plays RF.  They are different spots that require different reads and somewhat different skill sets.  Dye is the worst defensive RF in baseball.

and dunn played RF last year dude. 

willie pretty much locked up the position today (unless he goes on a 0-for-23 streak the rest of spring training).  go get 'em willie.