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Offline MorseTheHorse

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #200: June 05, 2012, 10:25:36 PM »
bump.  His AB in the 10th tonight was the worst I have ever seen from a non-pitcher.  Zero exaggeration. 

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #201: June 05, 2012, 10:56:14 PM »
You never saw Daniel Cabrera bat I suppose.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #202: June 06, 2012, 12:16:44 PM »
You never saw Daniel Cabrera bat I suppose.

I saw Kevin Elster, and Espinosa often looks as helpless as Elster.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #203: June 06, 2012, 12:23:07 PM »
bump.  His AB in the 10th tonight was the worst I have ever seen from a non-pitcher.  Zero exaggeration. 

But was it as bad as Ankiel's recent ABs. Just tuuurrribbbuuuhhhl.

Offline Lintyfresh85

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #204: June 06, 2012, 12:50:18 PM »
Posted in the gameday thread.

Last 30 days (25 games)

.253/.330/.494/.824

Offline Ray D

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #205: June 06, 2012, 12:50:30 PM »
bump.  His AB in the 10th tonight was the worst I have ever seen from a non-pitcher. 

Ankiel's last at bat was worse. Swung at three pitches, didn't come close to any of them.


Offline hammondsnats

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #206: June 06, 2012, 12:50:56 PM »
go get an OF bat, move lombardozzi to 2nd.  boom, solves it.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #207: June 06, 2012, 12:51:29 PM »
Ankiel's last at bat was worse. Swung at three pitches, didn't come close to any of them.


espinosa did too.  three pitches in the dirt.

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« Reply #208: June 06, 2012, 12:52:20 PM »
espinosa did too.  three pitches in the dirt.


I meant "as bad as"

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #209: June 06, 2012, 01:22:18 PM »
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=2b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0

Espinosa is currently sitting at #19 among ML 2Bs.  .3 WAR accumulated so far and on pace for about 1 WAR for the season.

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« Reply #210: June 06, 2012, 01:24:05 PM »
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=2b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0

Espinosa is currently sitting at #19 among ML 2Bs.  .3 WAR accumulated so far and on pace for about 1 WAR for the season.

Past 30 days he's #6 among ML 2B's with .7 WAR accumulated.

Which just goes to show how bad of a start he got off to.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #211: June 06, 2012, 01:34:29 PM »
Past 30 days he's #6 among ML 2B's with .7 WAR accumulated.

Which just goes to show how bad of a start he got off to.

I hope he keeps that up.  The past 25 games is no more of a predictor than the first 25 games though. 

Platooning him and Lombo would make both their numbers look a lot better going forward.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #212: June 06, 2012, 01:35:48 PM »
I hope he keeps that up.  The past 25 games is no more of a predictor than the first 25 games though. 

Platooning him and Lombo would make both their numbers look a lot better going forward.

So... his whole season to this point should be completely written off and he should start today with a .000/.000/.000 batting line? :lol:

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« Reply #213: June 06, 2012, 01:39:10 PM »
I'm sure he'd like to start the season over.  Unfortunately for him, all of the first 50 games count.  But I do hope he continues his recent better play.  He just needs to lay off the low breaking balls when he's hitting left-handed.

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« Reply #214: June 06, 2012, 01:39:11 PM »
So... his whole season to this point should be completely written off and he should start today with a .000/.000/.000 batting line? :lol:

with 239,230 strikeouts

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« Reply #215: June 06, 2012, 01:41:18 PM »
I'm sure he'd like to start the season over.  Unfortunately for him, all of the first 50 games count.  But I do hope he continues his recent better play.  He just needs to lay off the low breaking balls when he's hitting left-handed.

That's what I was getting at.

The last 25 count just as much as the first 25. Some seem to be missing that point.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #217: June 06, 2012, 01:55:57 PM »
with 239,230 strikeouts

still less than Adam Dunn :mg:

Offline Ray D

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #218: June 06, 2012, 01:57:55 PM »
He just needs to lay off the low breaking balls when he's hitting left-handed.

Or lay off hitting left-handed.


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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #219: June 06, 2012, 01:58:54 PM »
still less than Adam Dunn :mg:

at least dunn hits bombs

Offline MorseTheHorse

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #220: June 06, 2012, 02:11:57 PM »
his numbers may be a bit better, but he still swings (when batting lefty) at almost every low and inside breaking ball thrown to him, rarely even making contact.  I swear the only reason he doesn't strike out 100% of the time left-handed is poor scouting by other teams who really should be throwing this pitch 90% of the time against him. 

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #221: June 06, 2012, 03:25:03 PM »
(1) The slow-motion LH robot swing always annoys me. Just swing.
(2) I watch Espinosa pound dirt at pitches low and away. Looks just the way he looked in September, 2010. He still swings like he can't see the pitch when he bats LH.
(3) He's got about 70 strike-outs so far. Might break 200 K's if he continues to start.

As a wild thought: bring back Corey Brown. Start CB in LF. Move Lombo to 2B. Let Espinosa be the utility player. Drop Nady for Brown.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #222: June 06, 2012, 03:38:53 PM »
I hope they bring Moore or Brown up for the Toronto/Boston series (which are away so with a DH) to give us some better options than Nady/Bernadina or ANkiel as the 9th batter in the starting lineup. 

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #223: June 06, 2012, 03:40:21 PM »
Anything is better than Ankiel.

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Re: The Espinosa watch thread
« Reply #224: June 06, 2012, 03:40:58 PM »
Anything is better than AnkKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKiel.

FTFY