Message #1111135

[Tribe Time]

For crying out loud... Let us know when any Cleveland team can beat a D.C./Baltimore/Pittsburgh or freak, any team.

Dec. 16th, that will decide. Who's willing to avatar bet that game? I will.

http://www.footballdb.com/teamvsteam.html?tm=8&opp=32

Again... Browns are 33-10-1 vs the Redskins.  Last win was 2004.

http://nbauniverse.com/head_to_head/cavaliers_vs_wizards_all_time.htm

Wizards may lead the regular season by 14, but come time when it matters, the playoffs, Cavs hold an 8 game advantage.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/head2head.cgi?teams=CLE&from=1901&to=1966&submit=Submit

Not only that, but the Indians hold a sizeable lead over the DC baseball teams.  As you know I am a Nats fan as well, but I'm just proving the fact that you're wrong.  ...Yet again.

In regards to Pittsburgh and Baltimore...

Indians are about .500 with the Pirates, but own the Orioles.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/head2head.cgi?teams=CLE&from=1901&to=2012&submit=Submit

Up until the expansion Browns, the Browns OWNED the Steelers.  Granted, I don't use that as an excuse, it just shows why the Steelers own an 8 game regular season lead over us.  We're better overall in Conference Championships and overall championships (4 AAFC and 4 NFL Championships).   They have "6" (more like 5 - the "victory" over the Seahawks wasn't as such) Super Bowls.  They have more Divisional Championships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browns%E2%80%93Steelers_rivalry

Cleveland vs Baltimore Colts

Browns hold a 10-5 advantage

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/261016-classic-rewind-when-baltimore-vs-cleveland-meant-colts-vs-browns

Cleveland vs Baltimore Ravens

http://www.atsdatabase.com/Stats/NFL/Cleveland-Browns-vs-Baltimore-Ravens-Football-Results.html

Ravens hold a 13-7 advantage

All together, it's nearly .500 with the Browns taking 17 games, the Colts/Ravens 18

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Any more statements you want to make that I can show to you?  Cleveland does very well against the DC Metro area...