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Re: Microsoft thread
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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #601: April 24, 2012, 07:39:17 AM »
And will fail.

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« Reply #602: April 24, 2012, 01:55:34 PM »
I dunno, it actually looks pretty slick.

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« Reply #603: April 24, 2012, 03:14:07 PM »
I dunno, it actually looks pretty slick.

They said the same thing about the Zune and, to be fair, Google+ - all total turds.

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #604: April 24, 2012, 03:56:29 PM »
Office and windows did ok

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #605: April 24, 2012, 04:03:01 PM »
Office and windows did ok

And outside of that?

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #606: April 24, 2012, 05:04:31 PM »
And outside of that?

dos, internet explorer, windows media player, I'm even starting to prefer bing to google

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #607: April 24, 2012, 05:17:03 PM »
The only reason for IE's continued "success" is that it comes included with Windows.  Same with WMP really.  I don't use either.

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« Reply #608: April 24, 2012, 06:01:31 PM »
The only reason for IE's continued "success" is that it comes included with Windows.  Same with WMP really.  I don't use either.

Says a Mac user...  boy if that's not the pot and the kettle :poke:

Also you're not quite correct.  A big part of IE's market presence is due to extremely thorough enterprise integration.  No other browser even comes close.  It may not be the sexiest quality, but it's quite important.  Enterprise management options for most other browsers are essentially nonexistent.

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #609: April 24, 2012, 06:42:55 PM »
What do you mean?

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #610: May 01, 2012, 04:12:24 PM »
Tuesday, May 01, 2012

IE Usage Share Grows Yet Again in April

It looks like tech industry pundits are going to have to put away their shovels. After years of falling usage share, Microsoft’s Internet Explorer (IE) has rebounded nicely in 2012, not by halting its declines but by reversing them. The trend continued yet again in April, with IE edging up to 54 percent usage share.

IE share has grown a modest 2 percentage points this year. But after several years of steadily declining share, that’s cause for celebration. Most had written off IE and were waiting for first Mozilla Firefox and then Google Chrome to finish it off. That doesn’t seem to be happening: Firefox and Chrome usage was essentially flat in April after months of slow declines.

The data comes from NetApplications, which measures browser usage share each month.

Microsoft for some reason continues to highlight only the newest IE version, IE 9, running on its latest Windows version, Windows 7. And those results, as before, are positive, too: IE 9 on Windows 7 grew 4 percentage points in April to control 35.5 percent of that part of the market, compared with 21 percent for Chrome and 15.3 percent for Firefox.

In the United States, IE 9’s control of Windows 7-based web browsing is far more dominant. There, IE 9 controls 53 percent of browser usage, compared with also-rans Chrome (15 percent) and Firefox (12.5 percent).

Whichever metric you look at, there’s no overlooking the fact that IE is experiencing a small renaissance this year. As I first reported a month ago in Internet Explorer Usage Share Is On the Rise in 2012, IE usage has grown in 2012 while Firefox and Chrome usage has fallen overall. This suggests that the market for web browsers can comfortably handle three major players, which is quite a different situation than a decade ago, when it was IE and then just a few niche browsers.

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/market-share-grows-april-142953





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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #611: May 01, 2012, 04:20:48 PM »
IE9 is a big piece of crap.  Almost as bad as Safari.


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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #613: May 21, 2012, 09:42:58 AM »
Damn, even Paul Thurrott is trashing 8:

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-release-preview-rip-aero-20032012-143133

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This is a neat thing that Microsoft’s building, it really is. But it should have occurred in something outside of Windows. (It should have been just Windows RT, minus the desktop.) Windows 8 isn’t even Windows anymore. It’s a tablet OS that’s been grafted onto Windows like a monstrous Frankenstein experiment.

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The migration to Windows 8 is just like that. Today, Microsoft boasts of up to 1.3 billion active Windows users. Windows 8 is not for them, not for the most part: We get a few bones, like Storage Spaces and quicker boot times, but the desktop environment is pretty much just Windows 7++  (or Windows 7+1 for you non-programmers). But it is those very users who don’t want or need tablet functionality that are financing Microsoft’s push towards an OS—that is not really Windows—that will replace what they’re using. Maybe not in Windows 8. Maybe in Windows 9, or 10. But eventually.

Do I feel weird about this? Sure. I’m a dinosaur driving a desktop PC that Microsoft doesn’t really care about anymore. Heck, I just bought a new desktop computer. It’s like I didn’t get the memo.

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #614: May 21, 2012, 02:30:37 PM »
Quote from: Paul Thurrott
I’m a dinosaur

Chief, are you Paul Thurrott???

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Re: Microsoft thread
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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #616: May 21, 2012, 04:54:53 PM »
I read and listen to Thurrott regularly (just read his post about Visual Studio 11 a few minutes ago).  He complains ALL the time.  Nothing to see here.

This was part of his larger gripe about getting rid of Aero glass (a feature that I could take or leave in both Vista and 7).  This was hardly worth the "newsprint" he wasted complaining about it.

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #617: May 21, 2012, 06:14:01 PM »
Then why are you discussing it?

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Re: Microsoft thread
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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #620: May 31, 2012, 09:02:19 PM »
Downloaded it and installed it (in a virtual machine)

It's further along visually than it was in the Consumer Preview.  They're getting rid of Aero glass, as Paul Thurrott griped about, but not until RTM so it's still in the RP.  It's less Aeroy though, in this version.  Much less than in 7.  In 7, Aero was right up in your grill, all the time.  It's much "flatter" in the RP.

Solitaire is gone or not available yet in this version.  That matters to me because Solitaire is the Metro app I used (though I'm using Metro IE to write this post).  Speaking of Metro IE, flash is now included/supported which wasn't the case in the CP.

Functionally, I don't know what's different because I haven't used it enough yet but it seems a bit snappier now.  Starting a desktop app from the Start Screen seems a lot faster when it transitions to the desktop than it was in either the DP or the CP.  And remember, I'm running it from a virtual machine and it still seems faster.  I'm about to install it natively and see what that's like.

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #621: May 31, 2012, 09:16:39 PM »
Why get rid of aero?  What's the replacement?


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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #623: May 31, 2012, 09:28:39 PM »
Why get rid of aero?  What's the replacement?

According to Microsoft Aero Glass is dated and cheesy.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/05/microsoft-drops-aero-glass-ui-in-windows-8/

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Re: Microsoft thread
« Reply #624: May 31, 2012, 09:33:10 PM »
I thought aero looked fine :shrug:

I liked it, but then again I think aqua looks good too.