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Offline JCA-CrystalCity

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #400: July 01, 2012, 05:31:49 PM »
It's sprained.

sounded like there may be spurs or chips in there, too.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #401: July 01, 2012, 05:50:57 PM »
sounded like there may be spurs or chips in there, too.

Right, I heard it may be a situation where he needs surgery at some point to "clean it up"

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #402: July 01, 2012, 05:57:12 PM »
So we're trading some meaningless wins now for a potential missed season?  Great idea.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #403: July 01, 2012, 06:21:51 PM »
So we're trading some meaningless wins now for a potential missed season?  Great idea.

But that's the exact same surgery Drew Storen had. It's something he could have in October and heal up over the winter.

Wait you're being ironic, aren't you.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #404: July 01, 2012, 08:02:17 PM »
Yeah I think Zimm is going to have surgery in the off-season.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #406: July 02, 2012, 10:30:24 PM »
Sounded like a solid number of Nats fans were there.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #407: July 14, 2012, 10:42:42 AM »
.359/.414/.734 since the cortisone shot


CORTISONE FOR EVERYONE!!!

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #408: July 14, 2012, 11:06:27 AM »
All jokes aside, I want Cortisone!

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #409: July 14, 2012, 12:39:27 PM »
How long does cortisone last anyway? If it's worn off and the shoulder healed during that time, then that's fantastic. But if somehow it's still masking his pain and will wear off in the future, that's scary.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #410: July 14, 2012, 12:41:32 PM »
How long does cortisone last anyway? If it's worn off and the shoulder healed during that time, then that's fantastic. But if somehow it's still masking his pain and will wear off in the future, that's scary.
Unfortunately the latter is pretty much exactly what's going on.  Cortisone is entirely for symptomatic relief.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #411: July 14, 2012, 12:41:42 PM »
How long does cortisone last anyway? If it's worn off and the shoulder healed during that time, then that's fantastic. But if somehow it's still masking his pain and will wear off in the future, that's scary.

I doubt it's healed.  As I understand things, it's a pain management thing.  I also believe that the effects of cortisone will be different for everyone.  It will last longer for some than it does for others.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #412: July 14, 2012, 12:43:57 PM »
How long does cortisone last anyway? If it's worn off and the shoulder healed during that time, then that's fantastic. But if somehow it's still masking his pain and will wear off in the future, that's scary.

2-3 weeks and he isn't going to heal without rest. 

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #413: July 14, 2012, 12:47:14 PM »
In past years, he probably goes on the DL with the statement "if we were in a pennant race, he could have played through it, but since we're not, there's no use in risking it and get him healthy for the future".  Well, this year we're in a pennant race...

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #414: July 14, 2012, 02:32:06 PM »
i think you're allowed one cortisone shot a month. 

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #415: July 14, 2012, 02:38:31 PM »
http://orthopedics.about.com/od/injectio2/f/numberofcortisoneshots.htm



Question: How Many Cortisone Injections Can I Have?

Answer: The short answer? It depends.

First, a bit about cortisone injections: They are used in the treatment of many common orthopedic conditions, and they work by decreasing inflammation of irritated tissues. By limiting the inflammation, pain from these conditions is often relieved. Cortisone injections are used for many orthopedic problems, including:

Patients often hear that they can only have a limited number of cortisone injections. Sometimes they are told only three injections, or perhaps three injections in one year, or perhaps something else. So what is the limit for the number of cortisone injections?

So, How Many Can You Have?
There is no rule about the number of cortisone injections a person can have, but there are some concerns with repeated cortisone injections to one area of the body:

The cortisone injections are not helping
If one or two cortisone injections into one region do not help a problem for a sustained period of time, then it is unlikely that more cortisone injections will be of any benefit.

Repeated cortisone injections are not healthy for tissues
Small amounts of cortisone in the body are probably reasonable, but repeated injections can cause damage to tissues over time. Sometimes this is of little concern. For example, if a patient has severe knee arthritis, and a cortisone injection every 6 months helps significantly, then the number of injections probably does not matter too much. On the other hand, if a patient has shoulder tendonitis, but an otherwise healthy shoulder, the number of injections should probably be limited to prevent further damage to these tendons.

So what is the bottom line?
There is no hard and fast rule that says how many cortisone injections can be given over time. However, cortisone injections can have side effects, and repeated use of cortisone injections should be done with caution. Patients should understand that there are reasons not to use cortisone injections, even if they may help some symptoms. Because of this, most orthopedic surgeons will limit the number of cortisone injections they will offer to a patient.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #416: July 14, 2012, 02:46:54 PM »

Because of this, most orthopedic surgeons will limit the number of cortisone injections they will offer to a patient.

Wonder how this relates to the Nats' medical team?


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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #417: July 14, 2012, 02:53:34 PM »
Wonder how this relates to the Nats' medical team?


I'm sure they're well aware of the consequences of repeated cortisone injections and I wouldn't be surprised if Zimm takes another trip to the DL.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #418: July 17, 2012, 01:23:07 PM »


dwaaahhh

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #419: July 17, 2012, 01:27:57 PM »
Even there he looks hounddog.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #420: July 17, 2012, 01:56:35 PM »
.373/.434/.760 post cortisone injection

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #421: July 17, 2012, 02:22:41 PM »
.373/.434/.760 post cortisone injection

Bar keep, a round of cortisone for me and all my friends!

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #422: July 20, 2012, 08:43:30 PM »
Crazy

Mark Zuckerman ‏@MarkZuckerman
In 21+ games since cortisone shot, Ryan Zimmerman: .368 AVG, 9 HR, 25 RBI, .782 SLG. #Nats


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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #423: July 20, 2012, 08:53:25 PM »
I'm betting we see a few more shots, then he gets surgery in the offseason with a projected return in late may/early June 2013. If the team somehow tanks and is out of the race in late August, he won't play anymore this season and will get surgery earlier for a ST return.

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Re: What's wrong with Ryan Zimmerman?
« Reply #424: July 20, 2012, 09:26:17 PM »
Just goes to show you how good he could be if he were ever healthy.

Too bad he never will be.