Author Topic: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread (Read 170702 times)

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1150:** November 03, 2012, 10:43:55 AM »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 03, 2012, 10:36:07 AM

why would seattle want someone who is unproven and yet they'd have to give up a big pitching prospect?

i like rendon, but this isn't fantasy.

It would be a prospect for prospect trade - not very common, I know. But they have plenty of pitching prospects and not so many hitting prospects.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #1151:** November 03, 2012, 11:07:14 AM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on November 03, 2012, 10:24:33 AM

Kilgore on Jackson:

This smells like a sweetheart deal last year with Boras. By not offering a QO, it probably adds a few million to Jackson's offers. A team like the Angels or Baltimore could bring him in and not lose a middling 1st round pick.

I hadn't thought of that. That's interesting. Maybe we could work something similar out with another Boras client for next year. If the Nats strike out on Greinke or Sanchez, are there any other Boras clients, besides Jackson himself, that would come here to be the #4/5 next year on a 1 year deal?

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #1152:** November 03, 2012, 11:35:03 AM »

Jackson is probably furious - he lost a lot of money coming here last year, I'd be shocked if he ever sees a deal like the ones he turned down again

hammondsnats · « **Reply #1153:** November 03, 2012, 11:45:09 AM »

Quote from: HalfSmokes on November 03, 2012, 11:35:03 AM

Jackson is probably furious - he lost a lot of money coming here last year, I'd be shocked if he ever sees a deal like the ones he turned down again

he was pretty damn serviceable last year, just not in the playoffs. he's going to make a good chunk of change this offseason, no doubt.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1154:** November 03, 2012, 01:31:51 PM »

Indians trade RP Esmil Rodgers to the Blue Jays for IF Mike Aviles and and IF/C Yan Gomes.

The same Aviles who was traded to the Blue Jays for manager John Farrell.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #1155:** November 03, 2012, 01:36:21 PM »

2B and SP please

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #1156:** November 03, 2012, 01:39:58 PM »

Quote from: hammondsnats on November 03, 2012, 01:36:21 PM

2B and SP please

If Espi gets traded then the 2B will almost definitely be lombo until Rendon is ready come June.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #1157:** November 03, 2012, 01:44:58 PM »

Quote from: zimm_da_kid on November 03, 2012, 01:39:58 PM

If Espi gets traded then the 2B will almost definitely be lombo until Rendon is ready come June.

And the Nats would be worse off because of it.

Be careful what you wish for.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #1158:** November 03, 2012, 01:46:56 PM »

Lol espy isn't getting traded.

PebbleBall · « **Reply #1159:** November 03, 2012, 01:52:47 PM »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on November 03, 2012, 11:07:14 AM

I hadn't thought of that. That's interesting. Maybe we could work something similar out with another Boras client for next year. If the Nats strike out on Greinke or Sanchez, are there any other Boras clients, besides Jackson himself, that would come here to be the #4/5 next year on a 1 year deal?

Jackson is no longer a Boras client.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #1160:** November 03, 2012, 01:55:58 PM »

The nats will need to get Rendon in the lineup. I think there is a very good chance Espi gets traded this offeason.

zimm_da_kid · « **Reply #1161:** November 03, 2012, 02:04:46 PM »

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Mike Gonzalez didn't find a home for 2012 until May, but interest in the left-hander is plentiful this offseason. He told James Wagner of The Washington Post that about ten teams have already expressed interest in his services, but his top priority is staying with the Nationals.

comish4lif · « **Reply #1162:** November 03, 2012, 02:05:46 PM »

Quote from: JCA-CrystalCity on November 03, 2012, 10:24:33 AM

Kilgore on Jackson:

This smells like a sweetheart deal last year with Boras. By not offering a QO, it probably adds a few million to Jackson's offers. A team like the Angels or Baltimore could bring him in and not lose a middling 1st round pick.

It's a balancing act, once you put that qualifying offer out there, you have to be ready for Edwin to take it at $13.3m. Also note that maybe other teams think Edwin isn't worth $13M AND a draft pick. So, if you really want him, make the QO and be prepared that he takes it. But if you have a different plan, don't make the QO because Edwin may take it.