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Offline NatsAddict

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #250: May 12, 2009, 10:59:56 PM »
But the expectations of the trade were completely different. 

After the trade, every major publication picked Detroit to win the World Series.  This was the deal that put the Tigers over the top.  The Kitties wound up dead last.  I'm not saying it was the trade that did them in -- but the expectation was both MCab and Dontrelle were the "missing pieces."  Far from it. 

Was MCab due to be a free agent?  I know Detroit signed him to a long term deal -- that was what had to be done to ice the deal. 

I think the Fish did OK in this deal -- its always a gamble to trade established players for prospects.  Florida was faced with the prospect of rebuilding without Cabrera either way.  They attempted to get some value for him. 

I also think they fleeced the Tigers as far as Willis was concerned.  The Fish had to know he was totally washed up. 

And is the jury still out on all of these prospects?  what has happened to Trahern?  Badenhop has a lot of promise and is doing well from what I can see.  I guess when I look at the rest of the group, DeLa Cruz is gone, and Maybin, Miller, and Rabelo have been disappointments. 

I have a bit of trouble feeling bad for the fans of the Fish when they have won two world titles in such a short time span, current mismanagement notwithstanding. 

Yeah, the Tigers expectations were nowhere near met.  Cabrera was only up to his 2nd time in arby when the Fish trade him, and then spent more than his salary with the Tigers on the damned Manatees (male tub of lard dance team).

Maybin and Miller were the best prospects in the deal, and neither is very good at all.  Maybin has more holes in his swing than 3 Ugglas, and now scouts put Miller's ceiling as middle/back rotation.    Badenhop has about a 15-pitch duration, and the scouts put his ceiling at being a middle reliever, and he and his high WHIP and BAA are expected to be sent down again when Miller comes back or Vandern Hurk comes off DL next week.  Trahern has trouble getting his WHIP to consistently stay below 2, walks every 8th guy he faces, can't even average 5 IP per start, and is currently on his 4th stint on the DL since the trade.  De La Cruz was released.  Rabelo will likely never again wear an MLB uniform unless there is a rash of injuries - he not even on the Marlins depth chart, is unprotected, and still nobody wanted him in Rule 5. 

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #251: May 14, 2009, 04:05:00 PM »
phils about to fall to the dodgers :clap:

i hope those losers enjoy the train ride to dc. 

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #252: May 14, 2009, 04:13:19 PM »
phils about to fall to the dodgers :clap:

i hope those losers enjoy the train ride to dc. 

nm i jinxed them.

tie game 3-3 in bottom ninth.  out of all people carlos ruiz hit a two out two rbi double.  dagger.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #253: May 14, 2009, 04:39:29 PM »
take two ... dodgers beat phillies in extras by two :clap:

they have to be feeling like crap.  hopefully they leave dc feeling the same way.

Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #254: May 14, 2009, 06:25:05 PM »
Sadly, the Phillies aren't sweating coming into DC. They can't wait to feast on the sheep in our bullpen.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #255: May 14, 2009, 08:36:22 PM »
Sadly, the Phillies aren't sweating coming into DC. They can't wait to feast on the sheep in our bullpen.

Well, Brad Lidge's ERA is 8.59.  Joel Hanrahan's ERA is 6.28. 

Our hitters should bring an extra bib or two for this series too!

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #256: May 14, 2009, 11:59:03 PM »
i hope the mets lose tonight so we can go into this weekend series back just 6 games. 

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #257: May 16, 2009, 07:21:03 AM »
Danny Boy Update
Through May 15

BA: .182
OBP: .291
SLG: .339
OPS: .630
On pace to double-up or otherwise fail to drive in runners totaling: 343


All of which mean Fredi Gonzalez will continue to leave him in this spot in the batting order: 5

Marlins Fan Motto: "We Want Acta!"  :bag:

Uggla also is dead last among 2B in zone rating and range factor, and next to last in FPCT.  He's also the worst every-day position player to ever wear a Marlins uniform.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #258: May 16, 2009, 04:54:53 PM »
Danny Boy Update
Through May 15

BA: .182
OBP: .291
SLG: .339
OPS: .630
On pace to double-up or otherwise fail to drive in runners totaling: 343


All of which mean Fredi Gonzalez will continue to leave him in this spot in the batting order: 5

Marlins Fan Motto: "We Want Acta!"  :bag:

Uggla also is dead last among 2B in zone rating and range factor, and next to last in FPCT.  He's also the worst every-day position player to ever wear a Marlins uniform.


While it is still early in the season for this kind of hyperbole, I did do a fast check of Marlins history, and found that if Uggla continues at this rate, your "worst every day position player" in Marlins history may be absolutely right.  His last name is rather descriptive. 

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #259: May 16, 2009, 05:36:19 PM »
randy johnson getting lit up today against the mutts.

good we'll be 9.5 games back by day's end.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #260: May 16, 2009, 06:21:15 PM »
randy johnson getting lit up today against the mutts.

good we'll be 9.5 games back by day's end.
It feels like only a week ago that we were just 5.5 games behind the division lead.
Oh wait. It was only a week ago.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #261: May 16, 2009, 06:26:39 PM »
randy johnson getting lit up today against the mutts.

good we'll be 9.5 games back by day's end.

Ain't over till its over. Giants only down 7-5 now. Lewis just lead off the 7th with a double.

Edit: Make that 7-6.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #262: May 16, 2009, 06:34:06 PM »
Santana has been incredibly hittable today.  He's almost been Nationalsesque.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #263: May 16, 2009, 06:36:35 PM »
Supposedly if Giants come back and win it will be the biggest deficit they have overcome this year. 

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #264: May 16, 2009, 08:32:56 PM »
I haven't been catching much MLB baseball lately with a crush of NCAA games, including the one last night that after 3 hours was still in the 5th, and then went 12 innings, so I missed this action:


Losing skid hits five for Marlins
Manager Fredi Gonzalez (above) was ejected by first-base
umpire Ed Rapuano. The Marlins lost their first game in newly
named Land Shark Stadium.



Rapuano is an infrequent golf partner.  I'm saving a copy of this pic for him to autograph next time I see him.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #265: May 17, 2009, 09:56:45 PM »
The Vindicator makes his Mets debut tomorrow night in LA.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #266: May 18, 2009, 11:58:17 AM »
Cross-posting this in two threads: the Marlins have designated John Koronka for assignment and MLBTR speculates that they will be filling his roster spot with potential callup Brian Sanches.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #267: May 18, 2009, 12:57:23 PM »
Cross-posting this in two threads: the Marlins have designated John Koronka for assignment and MLBTR speculates that they will be filling his roster spot with potential callup Brian Sanches.

The Fish announced after the game yesterday that Sanches is being called up today.  He showed up about 20 minutes ago, and should be activated shortly before game time.  He seems to have cut way down on his BB in his limited time this year, while piling up the K.  Since Nolasco has followed Fredi's lead, and has figured widening his ass is suitable behavior to collect a paycheck rather than, you know, working for a living, odds are Sanches will be needed tonight.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #268: May 19, 2009, 01:38:26 AM »
OMG!!  Ryan Church just "missed" third base while running home in the top of the 11th!   Inning over.  Run doesn't score.  Game still tied! :shock:

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #269: May 19, 2009, 01:40:52 AM »
OMG!!  Ryan Church just "missed" third base while running home in the top of the 11th!   Inning over.  Run doesn't score.  Game still tied!

ya, i saw it. Church is a clown. hahaha

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #270: May 19, 2009, 01:43:34 AM »
OMG, again!!!  Beltran and Pagan just both missed a fly ball, Willingham-style, Dodgers runners on 2nd & 3rd, no outs!  :lol:

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #271: May 19, 2009, 01:52:16 AM »
Dodgers win on Mets throwing error! :lol:

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #272: May 19, 2009, 01:55:34 AM »
Dodgers win on Mets throwing error! :lol:

HAHA, watching that inning unfold was highly entertaining. hahaha. clowns.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #273: May 19, 2009, 02:01:45 AM »
that was the funniest crap I have ever seen.

Mets are a laughingstock. The NL East is a joke.

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Re: 2009 Division-Watching
« Reply #274: May 19, 2009, 07:51:47 AM »
that was the funniest crap I have ever seen.

Mets are a laughingstock. The NL East is a joke.

They were all over this game on XM this morning.  Multiple errors, brain farts, total lack of fundamental execution.       :rofl:

Misery loves company I guess.    :?