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Offline EdStroud

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #200: August 12, 2009, 09:46:22 PM »
Great the Nationals are back to, "I've never seen someone picked off to end the game type plays"

Offline NatsDad14

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #201: August 12, 2009, 09:46:35 PM »
He was trying to imitate Josh Willingham.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #202: August 12, 2009, 09:47:22 PM »
The obsession with Morgan's basestealing abilities has got to stop. Yes, he has speed, and he can be a threat. But his SB count is useless given the CS%. He gets picked off far too often and that needs to be worked on very seriously. He had no place to go there. No reason to be in that position.
thank you :clap:


Offline PC

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #203: August 12, 2009, 09:49:03 PM »
The culprits in this loss.

1) Jim Riggleman
2) the bullpen
3) poor situational hitting (AGAIN!!!)

Nyjer Morgan gets a dishonorable mention just for that last play.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #204: August 12, 2009, 09:51:47 PM »
I just want to point out I stayed out of the game thread because I thought I might be bad luck, but they sucked all on their own tonight :( 

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #205: August 12, 2009, 09:52:19 PM »
That pickoff at the end of the game shows that Morgan isn't really thinking when he's on the basepaths.  And that's dangerous.

Offline NeedaNewNick

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #206: August 12, 2009, 09:53:06 PM »
still some good here - 6 innings from the starter, who threw an efficient 79 pitches, outhit the Braves, and no errors

bullpen collapse not all that surprising seeing how overworked these guys are

Offline NatsDad14

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #207: August 12, 2009, 09:53:26 PM »
Can someone tell me why Stammen was taken out after 79 pitches? I know he wanted offense, but the game was tied so we could stretch him for an extra inning or 2.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #208: August 12, 2009, 09:54:57 PM »
That pickoff at the end of the game shows that Morgan isn't really thinking when he's on the basepaths.  And that's dangerous.
I thought that was obvious. He doesn't pay any attention to the pitcher, catcher, etc. He just goes. Gets by on pure speed. You'd think his instincts would be better on the basepaths since his defensive instincts are fantastic but it just is not the case.

Needs to be learn to be more selective and read the pitcher and pay attention to the game situation.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #209: August 12, 2009, 09:55:23 PM »
Can someone tell me why Stammen was taken out after 79 pitches? I know he wanted offense, but the game was tied so we could stretch him for an extra inning or 2.

had to go for the lead right there. a shame Morgan didn't come through.

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #210: August 12, 2009, 09:56:41 PM »
Can someone tell me why Stammen was taken out after 79 pitches? I know he wanted offense, but the game was tied so we could stretch him for an extra inning or 2.

cuz we had two on and two outs, we were trying to scratch out another run or two.  and you know the nats love pulling their starters early and on a positive note.  usually i don't agree with that, but tonight, in that situation i'm okay.  nyjer hit the ball hard but it was right at the 1st baseman.  a base hit there probably scores two and we're up 4-2.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #211: August 12, 2009, 09:58:10 PM »
cuz we had two on and two outs, we were trying to scratch out another run or two.  and you know the nats love pulling their starters early and on a positive note.  usually i don't agree with that, but tonight, in that situation i'm okay.  nyjer hit the ball hard but it was right at the 1st baseman.  a base hit there probably scores two and we're up 4-2.

See my culprit #3. The situational hitting SUCKED tonight.

Offline NeedaNewNick

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #212: August 12, 2009, 09:58:51 PM »
a base hit there probably scores two and we're up 4-2.

probably more than that if Morgan doesn't get the bad call stealing in the 1st

Offline NeedaNewNick

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #213: August 12, 2009, 10:00:12 PM »
good news in that Cincy is a weak team, have to take at least 2 there

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #214: August 12, 2009, 10:09:03 PM »
Riggleman says Sosa has done a great job for us :?

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #215: August 12, 2009, 10:12:27 PM »
Riggleman says Sosa has done a great job for us :?
He hasn't been that bad.  Much better than I thought he would be actually.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #216: August 12, 2009, 10:13:58 PM »
:clap: Burnett says it's embarrassing and that he blew it tonight.

Offline sportsfan882

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #217: August 12, 2009, 10:14:17 PM »
He hasn't been that bad.  Much better than I thought he would be actually.
he's awful. awful. and he's only going to get worse.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #218: August 12, 2009, 10:26:43 PM »
he's awful. awful. and he's only going to get worse.

his proven track record says he's had plenty of struggles, but so far he's been pretty damn good for us.  that's all i care about.

is he going to falter?  maybe.  but up until now he's been serviceable ... look @ his numbers.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #219: August 12, 2009, 10:30:23 PM »
his proven track record says he's had plenty of struggles, but so far he's been pretty damn good for us.  that's all i care about.

is he going to falter?  maybe.  but up until now he's been serviceable ... look @ his numbers.
he's given up 3 freaking bombs in 7 games.

he is not serviceable and never will be serviceable for this team.

absolutely no reason to keep bums like him and Kensing on the roster. give Novoa and Wilkie a shot.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #220: August 12, 2009, 10:40:28 PM »
We lost again? Streaky team we have here.

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #221: August 12, 2009, 10:40:35 PM »
he's given up 3 freaking bombs in 7 games.

he is not serviceable and never will be serviceable for this team.

absolutely no reason to keep bums like him and Kensing on the roster. give Novoa and Wilkie a shot.

yeah i guess that 3.00 ERA (9 ip/3 er) isn't good.  or the 6/1 K/BB ratio.  nobody is saying he's a mainstay or savior, but those numbers are good.  regardless of what he does the rest of the way.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #222: August 12, 2009, 10:42:22 PM »
he's given up 3 freaking bombs in 7 games.

he is not serviceable and never will be serviceable for this team.

absolutely no reason to keep bums like him and Kensing on the roster. give Novoa and Wilkie a shot.
3 solo shots is all he has given up in terms of runs.  Besides that, 6 other hits and 1 walk with a 1.11 WHIP so far.  That is serviceable for now.

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #223: August 12, 2009, 10:46:09 PM »
yeah i guess that 3.00 ERA (9 ip/3 er) isn't good.  or the 6/1 K/BB ratio.  nobody is saying he's a mainstay or savior, but those numbers are good.  regardless of what he does the rest of the way.
but he is a terrible pitcher. just as bad as Colome. I can't believe you are defending his dumb ass. I'm embarrassed that he is on our roster and is pitching in a Nationals uniform. sinful.

Novoa rocking a 1.00 ERA in AAA (9 K and 3 BB in 9 IP).

Wilkie has a 2.35 ERA in AAA (7 K and 1 BB 7.2 IP).

Offline hammondsnats

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Re: Nationals @ Braves, Game 2
« Reply #224: August 12, 2009, 10:50:24 PM »
but he is a terrible pitcher. just as bad as Colome. I can't believe you are defending his dumb ass. I'm embarrassed that he is on our roster and is pitching in a Nationals uniform. sinful.

Novoa rocking a 1.00 ERA in AAA (9 K and 3 BB in 9 IP).

Wilkie has a 2.35 ERA in AAA (7 K and 1 BB 7.2 IP).

what has he done for us?!?!  succeeded!  ya know what if he starts to suck then he'll suck.  but up until this point, he has done his job ... better than some of the others that were shipped out.  based on his track record it won't last, but still for now he has been serviceable and that's what i'm arguing.

if it were up to you, you'd have a under 25 team.  that'd be hilarious.