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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #25: May 07, 2009, 03:26:37 PM »
Quote from: NFA Brian on May 07, 2009, 03:24:45 PM
I'd guess that Villone is intended to be the left-handed specialist (which is what Hinckley should have been). It's not sacrificing the future because to be honest with you Hinckley was not part of the future.

Hinckley could be a left handed specialist for the future for 6 years. Splits shown below. If you are arguing that LOOGY's are a dime a dozen, then that's fine.

I knew he was out of options, that's why it's puzzling.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #26: May 07, 2009, 03:27:14 PM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!



NOT MY EYE CANDY!



I'm devastated ....
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #27: May 07, 2009, 03:27:40 PM »
Quote from: JMadIV on May 07, 2009, 03:25:24 PM
what the hell is it going to take to get hanrahan released?

why are we trying so hard to keep him around?

Villone/Hinckley have nothing to do with Hanrahan's status. This pretty clearly speaks to the need for a lefty in the pen. Beimel is needed as the closer or setup guy.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #28: May 07, 2009, 03:27:46 PM »
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #29: May 07, 2009, 03:27:47 PM »
Quote from: NFA Brian on May 07, 2009, 03:24:45 PM
I'd guess that Villone is intended to be the left-handed specialist (which is what Hinckley should have been). It's not sacrificing the future because to be honest with you Hinckley was not part of the future.

Keep in mind, Hinckley was out of options, so he was either on the 25-man or designated for assignment


:clap:   I can't believe this garbage about holding on to a player because he is under team control for 6 years when he blows.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #30: May 07, 2009, 03:29:07 PM »
Quote from: PANatsFan on May 07, 2009, 03:26:37 PM
Hinckley could be a left handed specialist for the future for 6 years. Splits shown below. If you are arguing that LOOGY's are a dime a dozen, then that's fine.

That six years thing is overrated when it comes to a LOOGY. LOOGY's come and go and don't need to be protected.

That does not even take into account that Manny was not even using him as a LOOGY
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #31: May 07, 2009, 03:30:52 PM »
Quote from: NFA Brian on May 07, 2009, 03:29:07 PM
That six years thing is overrated when it comes to a LOOGY. LOOGY's come and go and don't need to be protected.

That does not even take into account that Manny was not even using him as a LOOGY
QFT. Acta is clueless. Maybe if he used Hinckley in the proper role he would have fared better.

Wells and Tavarez as our 8th-9th inning guys is another recipe for disaster.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #32: May 07, 2009, 03:33:40 PM »


Quote from: NFA Brian on May 07, 2009, 03:29:07 PM
That six years thing is overrated when it comes to a LOOGY. LOOGY's come and go and don't need to be protected.

That does not even take into account that Manny was not even using him as a LOOGY

I'll go with this then. I don't know that anyone ever worried about Ray "Greatest LOOGY ever :roll: " King's team control.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #33: May 07, 2009, 03:36:22 PM »
So does this mean that Mike Rizzo hocked a LOOGY?
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #34: May 07, 2009, 03:36:48 PM »
Hinckley was good against lefties, the stats will back that up.  But he was nothing more than his curveball pitch and having a LOOGY is only a luxury that semi-decent bullpens get to enjoy.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #35: May 07, 2009, 03:40:46 PM »
We'll lets hope we wont be calling for Villones head in 2 weeks.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #36: May 07, 2009, 03:41:14 PM »
Quote from: cmdterps44 on May 07, 2009, 03:40:46 PM
We'll lets hope we wont be calling for Villones head in 2 days.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #37: May 07, 2009, 03:42:45 PM »
Villone's entrance music is Drowning Pool's "Bodies". :lol:
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #38: May 07, 2009, 03:43:06 PM »
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #39: May 07, 2009, 03:43:55 PM »
Quote from: cmdterps44 on May 07, 2009, 03:40:46 PM
We'll lets hope we wont be calling for Villones head in 2 weeks.

As fans, hoping is about the only thing we can do at this point.
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Offline NFA Brian

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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #40: May 07, 2009, 03:47:06 PM »
Hinckley failed in 2009 because he was allowed to face too many right handed hitters

vs RHB 27PA 18AB 7H 9BB 3K
vs LHB 17PA 13AB 1H 2BB 1HBP 0K

The numbers against LHB are not great but using him against RHB was dumb
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #41: May 07, 2009, 03:48:18 PM »
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #42: May 07, 2009, 03:48:27 PM »
Quote from: NFA Brian on May 07, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
Hinckley failed in 2009 because he was allowed to face too many right handed hitters

vs RHB 27PA 18AB 7H 9BB 3K
vs LHB 17PA 13AB 1H 2BB 1HBP 0K

The numbers against LHB are not great but using him against RHB was dumb

He was .077/.250/.077 (no extra base hits) vs. Lefties so those numbers are good. I'm surprised that he didn't strike out any lefties this year in those 17 PA.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #43: May 07, 2009, 03:49:41 PM »
Quote from: NFA Brian on May 07, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
The numbers against LHB are not great but using him against RHB was dumb

Are you calling Manny dumb?
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #44: May 07, 2009, 03:54:33 PM »
Sigh. Still no Clippard.
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Offline PANatsFan

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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #45: May 07, 2009, 04:14:51 PM »
Quote from: ronnynat on May 07, 2009, 03:48:18 PM
"Suitcase" is one of his nicknames.

(Image removed from quote.)
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/players/Ron_Villone/

The pickoff move is actually really big when you bring him in with guys on base.

The large number of walks means he'll fit right in.
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Offline Nat of the Living Dead

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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #46: May 07, 2009, 04:15:04 PM »
Oh joy! Our problems are solved! 4th Place in the NL East here we come!
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #47: May 07, 2009, 04:19:17 PM »
Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on May 07, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
Oh joy! Our problems are solved! 4th Place in the NL East here we come!

hahahahaha.  At least they made a move, hopefully it's the right one.  I expect we see T-Clip up at some point soon.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #48: May 07, 2009, 04:19:42 PM »
Quote from: Nat of the LivingDead on May 07, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
Oh joy! Our problems are solved! 4th Place in the NL East here we come!

Funny, that's what people said when we signed Dunn.  Only it was actually a somewhat believable joke at that time.  Now it's laughable.
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Re: Villone up, Hinckley DFA'd
« Reply #49: May 07, 2009, 04:20:09 PM »
I'm going to go by T-Chef around here from now on.
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