2015-2016 Offseason Discussion Thread

[Slateman]

AJ Cole for Neil Walker?

[mmzznnxx]

AJ Cole for Neil Walker?

I would do that in a heartbeat, I don't know why the Pirates would though.

[whytev]

Lol, I guess you like 85 wins?

If they get Chapman, O' Day, and a mid-tier starter, Parra will be good enough if health is even a little on our side. It's not as aggressive as I'd like, but it's not the end of the world either.

[zimm_da_kid]

If they get Chapman, O' Day, and a mid-tier starter, Parra will be good enough if health is even a little on our side. It's not as aggressive as I'd like, but it's not the end of the world either.

Kazmir

[imref]

Giolito and Robinson for Freeman, first base and another LH hitter and we're golden.

[deeznatz]

AJ Cole for Neil Walker?

You mean an oustanding 2b for a garbage pitching prospect??????  ummmmm, yeah.

[Slateman]

If they get Chapman, O' Day, and a mid-tier starter, Parra will be good enough if health is even a little on our side. It's not as aggressive as I'd like, but it's not the end of the world either.

They're not getting Chapman and Oday.

[BrandonK]

They're not getting Chapman and Oday.

O'Day isn't going to close. A true "overhual," like some are saying, would get rid of more than Storen & Paps. Rivero & Stammen should be the only locks

[Slateman]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/11/22/teams-are-open-dealing-closers/4VnmpXpvKUaqkM1EsTzUiN/story.html

The Reds listened to Boston’s pitch for Chapman but required more than the Red Sox offered for Kimbrel, and the Sox weren’t comfortable going the extra mile for a pitcher who can become a free agent after 2016

Lulz at getting Chapman

[PebbleBall]

Lulz at getting Chapman

But the Red Sox didn't have AJ Cole to deal

[Slateman]

But the Red Sox didn't have AJ Cole to deal

[Mattionals]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/11/22/teams-are-open-dealing-closers/4VnmpXpvKUaqkM1EsTzUiN/story.html
Lulz at getting Chapman

The Reds need to stop living in a fantasy world. No team is willing to pay that many top prospects for a one year rental closer. It's usually the fans that overvalue their players, not the FO. Many people here thought Escobar was a bad return for Clippard. Seems to me that fans on the Reds forums would be happy with a high ceiling OF prospect and a high level arm, potentially one they could trade at the deadline. Robles, Storen, and Difo should get it done.

[varoadking]

We're stuck with Werth and Zimmerman...we should really try to upgrade at catcher...shouldn't be that hard...

[BrandonK]

We're stuck with Werth and Zimmerman...we should really try to upgrade at catcher...shouldn't be that hard...

Who?

[lylelgreen]

@masnCJ: Dusty Baker keeps Bob Henley as Nationals' third base coach (with Logan Schafer note): When Matt Williams was ... https://t.co/G0IMICnr2d

[Slateman]

Rizzo is writing his own termination letter

[JCA-CrystalCity]

I have cheered for the Redskins since Eddie LeBaron was QB...about the same season that Mickey Vernon won the AL batting title. And daughter and I watched the first half of the Carolina game.

So:

- the Nats are likely to win the NL East sooner than the Redskins will win the NFC East

Well, the NFL East is so bad this year I could see the Snydermen winning 3 or 4 games and sneaking through at .500.

[imref]

Verducci says that he's hearing that the Nats and Mets are top bidders for Zobrist.

[deeznatz]

The Reds need to stop living in a fantasy world. No team is willing to pay that many top prospects for a one year rental closer. It's usually the fans that overvalue their players, not the FO. Many people here thought Escobar was a bad return for Clippard. Seems to me that fans on the Reds forums would be happy with a high ceiling OF prospect and a high level arm, potentially one they could trade at the deadline. Robles, Storen, and Difo should get it done.

Robles??  H3lls no.  He's, by far, the best position prospect in the entire system

[imref]

A look at the Nats 2016 payroll:

http://www.nationalsarmrace.com/?p=11300

Current projected payroll: ~$127 miillion

[varoadking]

A look at the Nats 2016 payroll:

http://www.nationalsarmrace.com/?p=11300

Current projected payroll: ~$127 miillion

They need to get Werth, Zimmerman and Gonzalez to defer their 2016 salaries to align with their contributions to the team.  That would free up another $47MM+...

[RobDibblesGhost]

They need to get Werth, Zimmerman and Gonzalez to defer their 2016 salaries to align with their contributions to the team.  That would free up another $47MM+...

The 2016 winter meetings are at National Harbor, so that frees up some travel costs. I bet the Lerners won't even reimburse meal money.

[BrandonK]

They need to get Werth, Zimmerman and Gonzalez to defer their 2016 salaries to align with their contributions to the team.  That would free up another $47MM+...

According to Cots and some discussion we've had here, the overall AAV is what factors into the luxury tax (which would be where the Lerners draw the absolute line; probably much lower), so that wouldn't really matter much. Unlike other sports, extensions don't change the AAV impact for the year, only the years and total $$$.

Unless you're arguing that the Lerners are truly broke and can't afford the team anymore, I'm not sure what the point would be.

[varoadking]

According to Cots and some discussion we've had here, the overall AAV is what factors into the luxury tax (which would be where the Lerners draw the absolute line; probably much lower), so that wouldn't really matter much. Unlike other sports, extensions don't change the AAV impact for the year, only the years and total $$$.

Unless you're arguing that the Lerners are truly broke and can't afford the team anymore, I'm not sure what the point would be.

My suggestion is that they defer their 2016 salaries in perpetuity...

[BrandonK]

My suggestion is that they defer their 2016 salaries in perpetuity...

Ha, the pleasures of a guaranteed contract, huh?

Not a Gio homer, but he is actually been worth more than his contract (if you buy into $/WAR). 3.7 WAR last season X $7M = $25.9M. His contract is at $12M/yr, with some options coming up. Not bad.