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Offline cmdterps44

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3325: January 15, 2013, 02:42:21 PM »
Also, you gotta wonder if something's coming with Morse and Clippard/Storen, amirite?

But what? I'd take another stud starter... just to have for some reason.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3326: January 15, 2013, 02:44:50 PM »
Being serious for a moment, I'm betting on a deal for Morse and Clippard/HRod

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3327: January 15, 2013, 02:48:11 PM »
Which starter could we trade for though?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3328: January 15, 2013, 02:50:22 PM »
What teams need power bats and relievers?  Rays?  Yanks?  Sox?  Cubs?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3329: January 15, 2013, 02:51:41 PM »
What teams need power bats and relievers?  Rays?  Yanks?  Sox?  Cubs?

Every team!  Except for the Nats.  Ha.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3330: January 15, 2013, 02:53:00 PM »
Give us one of your starters Rays.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3331: January 15, 2013, 02:53:38 PM »
This is such an interesting move.  Why pay $14 million for a closer when you have a young, cheap, very talented closer already on your roster?  I'm not against this move though and I think this easily makes us the WS favorites.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3332: January 15, 2013, 02:55:38 PM »
This is such an interesting move.  Why pay $14 million for a closer when you have a young, cheap, very talented closer already on your roster?  I'm not against this move though and I think this easily makes us the WS favorites.

my guess is that the young, cheap, very talented closer has trade value, and $28 million is the price to put Rizzo into a position where he can leverage that trade value

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3333: January 15, 2013, 02:58:45 PM »
Yeah, Morse and Clippard/Storen seems inevitable at this point, and it will bring back something nice and shiny.
Well, if we went for a stud starter, you could see Det in the deal, too. 

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3334: January 15, 2013, 03:00:22 PM »
They could also flip Mattheus or Stammen instead of Clip/Storen.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3335: January 15, 2013, 03:22:55 PM »
Well, if we went for a stud starter, you could see Det in the deal, too. 

Detwiler, Morse, Storen, and Espinosa for Price and McGee  :P

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3336: January 15, 2013, 03:26:00 PM »
Detwiler, Morse, Storen, and Espinosa for Price and McGee  :P

That is probably the only trade I'd accept Detwiler being moved in.  He basically saved our season in Game 4 last season and looks to be on the uptrend. 

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3337: January 15, 2013, 03:30:39 PM »
The guy I want on the Rays is Chris Archer.  I don't see the Rays needing a starter back in a deal, but I'm not sure if Morse and Storen would be enough for Archer.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3338: January 15, 2013, 03:39:57 PM »
Well, considering we have no place to play him anyway, makes sense we are the fans least interested in making fake proposals.

You make room for BGS.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3339: January 15, 2013, 04:24:33 PM »
Detwiler, Morse, Storen, and Espinosa for Price and McGee  :P

I actually like Det and Storen and have high hopes for Espinosa but I do that deal blind folded.  Never gonna happen though, just as your smiley suggests...

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3340: January 15, 2013, 04:48:56 PM »
uh, does this team have any holes left?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3341: January 15, 2013, 04:50:08 PM »
uh, does this team have any holes left?

lefty out of the pen is about it. I'd like starters 6-7 to be better, but that's nitpicking

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3342: January 15, 2013, 04:51:26 PM »
Kilgore:

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They formally announced the signings of left-handed relievers Fernando Abad, Bill Bray and Brandon Mann, right-handed starter Ross Ohlendorf and infielder Will Rhymes to minor league deals with invitations to spring training.

The team also announced the invitations to big league camp for minor leaguers, extending offers to left-handed reliever Pat McCoy, right-handed starter Tanner Roark, catcher Carlos Maldonado, first baseman/third baseman Matt Skole and infielder Zach Walters.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3343: January 15, 2013, 04:58:03 PM »
uh, does this team have any holes left?

1 lefty relievers and rotation depth

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3344: January 15, 2013, 05:14:52 PM »
Stammen versus lefties

.197/.274/.331

Stammen is actually better vs. lefties than he is vs. righties.

He holds lefties to a lower BA than Sean Burnett did (but issues more walks).

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3345: January 15, 2013, 05:16:27 PM »
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•Rays executive VP of baseball operations Andrew Friedman said he’s still looking to add a bat and, potentially, a reliever, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports (on Twitter). The Rays could also settle some arbitration cases before Friday’s deadline for exchanging figures with eligible players.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#oumji3urjzFffQwc.99

Some say don't deal with the Rays because they need to "win" every deal.  OK, so would this "win" for Friedman work for the Nats?

Morse + Storen for McGee + Odorizzi?

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3346: January 15, 2013, 05:20:29 PM »
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Some say don't deal with the Rays because they need to "win" every deal.  OK, so would this "win" for Friedman work for the Nats?

Morse + Storen for McGee + Odorizzi?

That works for me but I bet they would try to add Lombo or Moore to the deal.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3347: January 15, 2013, 05:33:43 PM »
That works for me but I bet they would try to add Lombo or Moore to the deal.

and then we'd be losing depth that we're counting on for 2013, so no.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3348: January 15, 2013, 05:42:05 PM »
and then we'd be losing depth that we're counting on for 2013, so no.

Agreed. Don't trade just to trade.

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Re: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread
« Reply #3349: January 15, 2013, 05:45:08 PM »
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Some say don't deal with the Rays because they need to "win" every deal.  OK, so would this "win" for Friedman work for the Nats?

Morse + Storen for McGee + Odorizzi?

I'd do that instantly.