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Offline PatsNats28

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Strasburg Article
« Topic Start: February 04, 2009, 09:12:26 PM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3884236

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SAN DIEGO -- There were 1,502 players selected in the Major League Baseball draft three years ago. Stephen Strasburg was not among them.

All 30 major league teams passed on Strasburg coming out of high school. This year, 29 teams may not have a chance to choose him even if they want to. And they want to.

The Washington Nationals have the first pick in the 2009 draft. Strasburg, a junior righthander at San Diego State, is the odds-on favorite for the first choice. So just how does a pitcher go from obscurity to the top of the draft?

By hitting 101 mph on a radar gun.

By outdueling the first pitcher selected in last year's draft.

By striking out 23 batters in a game.

By being the first collegiate player selected to the U.S. Olympic team since professionals were put on the roster in 2000.

Strasburg did all that and more last year, making him The Next Big Thing. Everyone, it seems, is now on board.

"Eighty percent of the teams wrote him off in high school," said a National League scout who has followed Strasburg in both high school and college. "Now guys are saying, 'I turned him in.' Oh, yeah, you thought he was going to throw 100. Bull."

This is where the explanation begins as to why Strasburg was overlooked in the draft three years ago.

Strasburg, who was born in San Diego, pitched for West Hills High in Santee, about 10 miles northeast of the SDSU campus. He displayed flashes of brilliance his senior year, touching 90 mph with his fastball and posting a 1.68 ERA and 74 strikeouts in 62 innings.

But Strasburg also was carrying nearly 250 pounds on a 6-foot-4 frame. He didn't wear it well. And at times he seemed as undisciplined on the mound as he was at the dinner plate.

"I was a chubby kid," Strasburg admitted, "with a poor mental game out there."

Said Scott Hopgood, Strasburg's coach at West Hills: "There were some very difficult times. The biggest thing is he was hardest on himself. He wanted to win, and he felt like he had to go out and strike everybody out.

"Twice he had no-hitters in the fifth and gave up a jam shot. He would be totally pissed. The next thing you know he gives up a couple of runs. You go out and talk to him and say, 'OK, why did this happen? You lost your focus. So what. You gave up a hit. Big deal.'

"The mental side of the game was very, very weak."

Hopgood recalls the problems being limited to Strasburg's junior year, but that's not how the scouts saw it. They witnessed the same thing his senior season.

"I saw a game where there were quite a few scouts there and he blew up, just absolutely lost it on the mound," said an American League scout. "He was a kid that would challenge his infielders when they would make mistakes. He would challenge his coach. He would challenge the umpires. … When you put that into the professional equation, it doesn't work.

"I think 30 teams got it right with Stephen Strasburg. I don't think we missed it. Everyone did their job. And it seemed like we all came to the same consensus: not quite ready."

In polite circles, scouts said Strasburg was soft or that he lacked mental toughness or intestinal fortitude. Take your pick. Among themselves, they put it more bluntly.

Soon after Strasburg stepped on campus, pitching coach Rusty Filter told him plainly how the local baseball community saw him.

"When Coach Filter told me that's what everybody was saying behind my back, that really pissed me off," Strasburg said. "I was out there to prove them all wrong. … To this day, that's kind of a sore spot in my heart. But it's fueled the fire to get me where I am today."
To this day, that's kind of a sore spot in my heart. But it's fueled the fire to get me where I am today.

--Stephen Strasburg, on what people used to say about him as a baseball player.

Molding Strasburg into the pitcher he is today began with his body. He shed nearly 30 pounds his first semester at SDSU, developing muscle and tone for the first time in his life.

Early on, Strasburg said he got exhausted simply going through the stretching exercises before the actual workout began.

When Strasburg went to thank SDSU strength coach Dave Ohton for pushing him during the team's first week of conditioning, Ohton told him, "I really think you should quit."

"When he said that, he kind of made me think, 'What do I want to do? I want to play baseball,'"Strasburg said. "It was a sign that I needed to step it up."

There were other signs as well. If Strasburg didn't get through his workout quickly enough, the weight room would be shut down and all of the players would have to go down to the field to run.

"They [his teammates] were yelling at me every day my freshman year if I didn't get through something," Strasburg said.

Developing Strasburg's mental toughness began soon thereafter. As a freshman, he pitched in middle relief for the Aztecs before being moved into the closer's role.

"We ran him out there and put him in every hot-box situation that we could," Filter said. "There were times we would intentionally walk someone to load the bases and tell him he had to strike out the next two guys and he was delivering."

Strasburg finished the season with seven saves in 25 appearances, allowing only 10 earned runs. His confidence began to soar. So did his velocity.

Strasburg gained 8 mph on his fastball between his freshman and sophomore seasons. Looks of disbelief registered along with a 101 mph reading on the radar gun during a fall intrasquad. He hit triple digits several times during the season as well.

"I've never seen anything like this," Filter said. "Most guys at that age start to plateau. The benefit in this whole thing is he learned how to pitch before he became a velocity guy.

"I want people to know that he's worked extremely hard, and it's not just a guy blessed with a great arm."

The Aztecs moved Strasburg into the starting rotation for his sophomore season. He gave a glimpse of what was to come in the 2008 opener when he got the best of crosstown rival San Diego and lefthander Brian Matusz, who was selected fourth overall last year by the Baltimore Orioles.

Strasburg seemed to build on each outing over the next five weeks before missing a start with a bad cold that led to an ear infection. He returned the following week with a game for the ages, a 23-strikeout, one-hit gem in a 1-0 Mountain West Conference win over Utah. It was the third-most strikeouts ever and the most by a pitcher since the 1981 season.

Strasburg struck out the side in the first inning as well as the fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth against the Utes. In the ninth, he hopped off the mound and pumped his fist after striking out Utah's Jesse Shriner to end the game.

"I've seen a lot of baseball," SDSU coach Tony Gwynn said after the game. "I've never seen anything like that."

Strasburg may have been even better two weeks later in a 4-1 win over Texas Christian in which he took a perfect game into the seventh inning and finished with 13 strikeouts in a one-hitter.

The game provided the first hints of a phenomenon developing. The crowd's voice at Tony Gwynn Stadium rose as one whenever Strasburg got two strikes on a batter, a fan along the first-base line was putting up K's after strikeouts and a female student behind home plate held up a sign that read "Yo mama let u date?"

This all came during a seven-week stretch in which Strasburg allowed just two runs (one earned) over 55 innings. For the season, he was 8-3, 1.57 with 133 strikeouts and 16 walks in 97 innings.

It makes some wonder what Strasburg has in store for an encore.

"He might not match the numbers of last year," Filter said. "His numbers were unbelievable. The thing we're looking at is trying to increase the win total. … We're trying to get him peaked for the end of February. Answer the bell strong and get better throughout the season. At the end of the year, we'll take a look at the numbers. We're not going to get consumed by it."

For all the success, scouts would actually like to see Strasburg experience a little failure.

"What I'd really like to see him do is have a bad game," said the AL scout. "I'd like to see a team come out and hit him, maybe an umpire miss a call. Those are the things I'll be watching closely because he's already shown he can pitch.

"If he's going to get $6 million or whatever it is this year for the No. 1 pick, he's got to show that he's matured, 100 percent, all the way against adversity. I want to see how he handles that. I don't want him to be happy about it, but I want him to be able to handle it with pride and poise and still believe who he is."

San Diego County has produced more than a dozen major league pitchers in the past decade -- Cole Hamels, Aaron Harang, Mark Prior and Barry Zito among them. Strasburg's name now seems destined to join the list, although he's more concerned with leading the Aztecs to their first regional appearance in 18 years.

"Playing at the next level is great and I think it's going to work itself out," Strasburg said. "But my goal right now is to make an impact on this program and leave a footprint to help build a tradition for the future."

Discuss.

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« Reply #2: February 04, 2009, 09:24:53 PM »
true bonafide beast  :az:

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« Reply #3: February 04, 2009, 09:31:24 PM »
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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #4: February 04, 2009, 10:30:32 PM »
Slight concern regarding attitude, in a way the scouts were right in wishing a bad game for him. Attitude shouldn't matter though, especially with the Nationals current roster.

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« Reply #5: February 05, 2009, 12:30:53 AM »
Slight concern regarding attitude, in a way the scouts were right in wishing a bad game for him. Attitude shouldn't matter though, especially with the Nationals current roster.
Yup! He'll be losing soon enough ;)

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« Reply #6: February 05, 2009, 12:32:51 AM »
:lol: :az: :az: Hes nasty, hope to see him up here soon!

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #7: February 05, 2009, 09:02:16 AM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3884236

Discuss.

Kinda sounds like Nuke LaLoosh there a bit in his HS days. Sounds like he got the Crash Davis treatment at SDSU. Sounds like he toughened up a ton in college. Sounds like he'll be here in 2010. Sounds like I don't give a rat's ass what it takes -- to paraphrase Roger Dorn -- Sign this m-f-er NOW!

P.S. I know we have to draft him first...

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #8: February 07, 2009, 06:49:05 PM »
Harlan chimes in with an article on SS: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/07/AR2009020701416.html

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Next Saturday, the Nationals' pitchers and catchers report for spring training in Viera, Fla. But nobody in that current group matches the talent of Strasburg, who, if drafted and signed, could be in the Washington starting rotation by September.

:az:

Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #9: February 07, 2009, 06:54:20 PM »
:az:

If we sign him and he is as good as touted, I vote we change out the Dukes picture for Strasburg's.

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #10: February 07, 2009, 07:57:48 PM »
If we sign him and he is as good as touted, I vote we change out the Dukes picture for Strasburg's.

as i said the other day, hopefully my brother can create more in coming weeks. 

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« Reply #11: February 07, 2009, 08:01:55 PM »
He may have to make quite a few. Players from Belliard, Dukes, Flores, Zimmerman, Balester, Beachball Bergmann, Hill and even Carpenter have cult followings here. Hell even TRJPWH and Church still have a young fan club in these parts.

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #12: February 07, 2009, 09:01:53 PM »
He may have to make quite a few. Players from Belliard, Dukes, Flores, Zimmerman, Balester, Beachball Bergmann, Hill and even Carpenter have cult followings here. Hell even TRJPWH and Church still have a young fan club in these parts.

I've been accused of 7 of those at one point or another.   :?

In fact, it could be that if not for me, you could drop at least 4 or 5 of those guys from your list.     :lol:

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #13: February 07, 2009, 09:04:30 PM »
Kinda sounds like Nuke LaLoosh there a bit in his HS days. Sounds like he got the Crash Davis treatment at SDSU. Sounds like he toughened up a ton in college. Sounds like he'll be here in 2010. Sounds like I don't give a rat's ass what it takes -- to paraphrase Roger Dorn -- Sign this m-f-er NOW!

P.S. I know we have to draft him first...

Sounds like you like him.

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« Reply #14: February 07, 2009, 09:23:56 PM »
I've been accused of 7 of those at one point or another.   :?

In fact, it could be that if not for me, you could drop at least 4 or 5 of those guys from your list.     :lol:

I only see 3 of those that you had a crush on.  :lol:


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« Reply #15: February 07, 2009, 09:35:33 PM »
I only see 3 of those that you had a crush on.  :lol:



I just said 7 I've been accused of.  I really only had a crush on 3 or 4, but was falsely accused of the rest of them.   :-[

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #16: February 07, 2009, 09:37:29 PM »
Hill, Beachball, Balester, Church

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #17: February 17, 2009, 01:26:17 AM »
Thought this maybe of interest to National fans.

http://bigwest.yuku.com/sreply/25370

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« Reply #18: February 17, 2009, 09:57:45 AM »
Thought this maybe of interest to National fans.

http://bigwest.yuku.com/sreply/25370

Great link, thanks.  It had this link to an analysis of his mechanics, and an unfavorable comparison to Mark Prior.  Not sure if it's already been posted, so here it is again.

http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2008/11/18/665018/quick-note-stephen-strasbu

EDIT:  Make sure to read the discussions below the article, especially where several posters point out that Aaron Crow has one of the worst mechanical flaws of anyone.

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #19: February 17, 2009, 01:02:50 PM »
Outside of AZ's gay love for Dukes, nothing is guaranteed. We have to take this kid and hope for the best. If it works out it will be awesome. If it doesn't then we move on without regrets.

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« Reply #20: February 17, 2009, 02:25:55 PM »
Great link, thanks.  It had this link to an analysis of his mechanics, and an unfavorable comparison to Mark Prior.  Not sure if it's already been posted, so here it is again.

http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2008/11/18/665018/quick-note-stephen-strasbu

EDIT:  Make sure to read the discussions below the article, especially where several posters point out that Aaron Crow has one of the worst mechanical flaws of anyone.

Six posts down:

http://www.wnff.net/index.php/topic,11810.0.html

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #21: February 18, 2009, 01:34:19 AM »
I just hope we can sign him...

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #22: February 18, 2009, 09:56:23 AM »
I just hope we can sign him...

I wouldn't worry about that. Just hope he stays healthy and dominates again this season.

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Re: Strasburg Article
« Reply #24: March 30, 2009, 05:06:13 PM »
Who, Strasburg?  It sounds to me like he has a great head on his shoulders now.  He just had some growing up to do.