Author Topic: Strasburg TJ surgery & ongoing recovery news (Read 20765 times)

chemist · « **Reply #500:** August 27, 2010, 07:12:58 PM »

Also guys, biochemical analysis is not the same as a biomechanical analysis.

cmdterps44 · « **Reply #501:** August 27, 2010, 07:37:17 PM »

So from what I've been reading (and hearing from Bob Carpenter), TJ surgery isn't 100% for Strasburg or am I being mistaken?

Nathan · « **Reply #502:** August 27, 2010, 07:41:59 PM »

MLB says he "may need surgery" so I guess maybe it's not 100% yet. If he's going to need it though, I'd rather have him get it now instead of beginning of next season.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #503:** August 27, 2010, 07:45:17 PM »

Different kinds of tears, this is a significant one that needs the surgert, says Rizzo.

ronnynat · « **Reply #504:** August 27, 2010, 08:00:37 PM »

Just found out about this. Sucks.

ronnynat · « **Reply #505:** August 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM »

I wonder if they'll tweak his mechanics after he recovers. Probably will.

Kevrock · « **Reply #506:** August 27, 2010, 09:02:41 PM »

Quote from: ronnynat on August 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM

I wonder if they'll tweak his mechanics after he recovers. Probably will.

I wonder how. Lots of different opinions out there about what went wrong. Even the experts are going to have a lot of opinions.

Did they tweak Zimmermann's mechanics? Carpenter's? Any of the other countless TJ survivors? Would love to read any articles about mechanical tweaks following TJ.

Fan037 · « **Reply #507:** August 27, 2010, 10:00:23 PM »

A few months ago, the LA Angels lost pitcher, Nick Adenhart, at the age of 22. Adenhart was killed in an auto accident after pitching 6 scoreless innings against the Oakland Athletics. Adenhart had previously had TJ surgery.

We have Strasburg and we have to hope he gets well again.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #508:** August 27, 2010, 10:07:34 PM »

A few months ago? That was nearly a year and a half ago.

Nathan · « **Reply #509:** August 27, 2010, 10:11:11 PM »

Quote from: Fan037 on August 27, 2010, 10:00:23 PM

A few months ago, the LA Angels lost pitcher, Nick Adenhart, at the age of 22. Adenhart was killed in an auto accident after pitching 6 scoreless innings against the Oakland Athletics. Adenhart had previously had TJ surgery.

We have Strasburg and we have to hope he gets well again.

His name popped out to me on the Wikipedia list of players that have had TJ surgery.

Fan037 · « **Reply #510:** August 27, 2010, 10:32:50 PM »

Sorry, Linty, if I misstated the date of Adenhart's death. I thought it was a few months ago. The main point is we have Strasburg, and hopefully, he'll get well.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #511:** August 27, 2010, 10:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Fan037 on August 27, 2010, 10:32:50 PM

Sorry, Linty, if I misstated the date of Adenhart's death. I thought it was a few months ago. The main point is we have Strasburg, and hopefully, he'll get well.

Sorry for correcting you... but for some reason that death really hit me hard.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #512:** August 27, 2010, 10:45:05 PM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on August 27, 2010, 10:37:58 PM

Sorry for correcting you... but for some reason that death really hit me hard.

Drunk driving fatalities are absolutely the worst. Taking a cab could save lives. If you think about it, it's revolting.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #513:** August 27, 2010, 10:48:27 PM »

The scum bag that killed him had his license suspended for drunk driving in the past... he should have been in jail many times over, yet the system failed us, and Nick.

welch · « **Reply #514:** August 27, 2010, 11:46:04 PM »

Rizzo, Strasburg, and Riggleman sound certain that Strasburg will need surgery...at least as quoted in the Post right now. Given recovery time, it sounds like Strasburg will return for spring training in 2012.

Argh.

So...how many possible starting pitchers do the Nats have?

spidernat · « **Reply #515:** August 27, 2010, 11:59:49 PM »

They better not freak up and try to avoid this and end up prolonging the problem.

Coladar · « **Reply #516:** August 28, 2010, 01:38:32 AM »

Theres so much out there about this, and it's such bad news on top of the awful playing the Nats have done this week, that I've had it. I don't want to read any more about this. So I'll ask a question here that hopefully has been answered. Is it believed that this injury requiring TJ happened last Saturday? Or did they just chance upon it by doing the MRI? Further, did Stras have this contrast MRI when we went on the DL in July, and thus not have this injury then? or any signs of it?

It seems unbelievable this just popped up in two and a half starts. It further seems so unbelievable he's injured to the point of TJ surgery in just half a professional season, when so much ridiculous precaution was taken. Is there much precedent for a guy with this little playing time, babied this much, and who had just had an MRI show clean a couple weeks prior having this happen? Or is it, as I've been posting for a couple months, strongly due in part to Stras throwing so hard and appearing to have "rough" mechanics where he's just throwing his entire body behind a 100+ pitch?

TylerDC · « **Reply #517:** August 28, 2010, 02:09:56 AM »

Quote from: Coladar on August 28, 2010, 01:38:32 AM

Theres so much out there about this, and it's such bad news on top of the awful playing the Nats have done this week, that I've had it. I don't want to read any more about this. So I'll ask a question here that hopefully has been answered. Is it believed that this injury requiring TJ happened last Saturday? Or did they just chance upon it by doing the MRI? Further, did Stras have this contrast MRI when we went on the DL in July, and thus not have this injury then? or any signs of it?

It seems unbelievable this just popped up in two and a half starts. It further seems so unbelievable he's injured to the point of TJ surgery in just half a professional season, when so much ridiculous precaution was taken. Is there much precedent for a guy with this little playing time, babied this much, and who had just had an MRI show clean a couple weeks prior having this happen? Or is it, as I've been posting for a couple months, strongly due in part to Stras throwing so hard and appearing to have "rough" mechanics where he's just throwing his entire body behind a 100+ pitch?

I haven't been reading too much on it either, as quite frankly, it's depressing, but yeah, that one pitch where Strasburg grimaced at Philly definitely did something that it wasn't supposed to do. It's crazy that his entire career can change just like that.. Like you said, it's unreal that this happened to us, after how slowly and precautionary we've worked him so far.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #518:** August 28, 2010, 03:56:09 AM »

Quote from: Coladar on August 28, 2010, 01:38:32 AM

Theres so much out there about this, and it's such bad news on top of the awful playing the Nats have done this week, that I've had it. I don't want to read any more about this. So I'll ask a question here that hopefully has been answered. Is it believed that this injury requiring TJ happened last Saturday? Or did they just chance upon it by doing the MRI? Further, did Stras have this contrast MRI when we went on the DL in July, and thus not have this injury then? or any signs of it?

It seems unbelievable this just popped up in two and a half starts. It further seems so unbelievable he's injured to the point of TJ surgery in just half a professional season, when so much ridiculous precaution was taken. Is there much precedent for a guy with this little playing time, babied this much, and who had just had an MRI show clean a couple weeks prior having this happen? Or is it, as I've been posting for a couple months, strongly due in part to Stras throwing so hard and appearing to have "rough" mechanics where he's just throwing his entire body behind a 100+ pitch?

Boras seems to think he was fine... and it was just a one pitch, arm snapped, type of deal.

Quote from: Scott Boras

"The plan that Mike Rizzo and Stephen and I sat down and devised was exactly what the Nationals did," Boras said. "There's no issue as to anything about the plan. This is just an unfortunate even that occurs with pitchers. It happened with one pitch. There's no notice to any of this. As far as Stephen's treatment and the conservatism applied by all of us, it was done in the greatest of caution."

http://dc.sbnation.com/2010/8/27/1654272/stephen-strasburg-elbow-tear-scott-boras

blue911 · « **Reply #519:** August 28, 2010, 06:50:08 AM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on August 27, 2010, 10:48:27 PM

The scum bag that killed him had his license suspended for drunk driving in the past... he should have been in jail many times over, yet the system failed us, and Nick.

Both drivers were drunk.

Potomac Cannons · « **Reply #520:** August 28, 2010, 10:59:50 AM »

Quote from: welch on August 27, 2010, 11:46:04 PM

So...how many possible starting pitchers do the Nats have?

JZ, Detwiler, Marquis, Maya (1st AAA start was quite nice), Olsen, Livo (I'd say it's a lock he re-signs), Martin, Chico, Milone, Solis, LAAnnAAn, Wang (if healthy), Mock (I didn't say that), Martis, Arnesen, Meyers (if his foot is okay).

Re-sign Livo and I'm confident with any combination of the first 10 there for next season. You add Strasburg back into the 2012 mix, along with some others coming up like Peacock, Rosenbaum etc. and this is only a minor, temporary setback.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #521:** August 28, 2010, 11:14:08 AM »

Potomac, you do realize that's pretty much the same pool we had this year (sans wang/maya)?. We have 75 losses with that group. And next year we won't have SS. We need outside help, big time, imo.

Upark25 · « **Reply #522:** August 28, 2010, 11:26:52 AM »

Quote from: hammondsnats on August 28, 2010, 11:14:08 AM

Potomac, you do realize that's pretty much the same pool we had this year (sans wang/maya)?. We have 75 losses with that group. And next year we won't have SS. We need outside help, big time, imo.

I agree completely I mean you would pretty much be going off of major progression from Zimm and Detwiler and the addition of Maya...you have to go after somebody in the offseason.

JMW IV · « **Reply #523:** August 28, 2010, 12:07:57 PM »

it has been said that pitchers who recover from TJ surgery end up throwing HARDER than they did before.

think about that....

hammondsnats · « **Reply #524:** August 28, 2010, 12:10:48 PM »

Quote from: JMW4th on August 28, 2010, 12:07:57 PM

it has been said that pitchers who recover from TJ surgery end up throwing HARDER than they did before.

think about that....

Yup...denny neagle yesterday was saying, this surgery is so mainstream its better to get it when younger and the fact strasburg is going to comeback throwing 95 mph changeups is just unfair haha.

Just sucks we won't see him til 2012.