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Big Yanks-D-Backs-Tigers deal goes down
« Topic Start: December 08, 2009, 02:24:16 PM »
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12:48pm: Heyman tweets that an agreement has been reached, with only medicals pending.  We'll do a fresh post once this trade is official.  To reiterate: the Yankees get Curtis Granderson, the D'Backs get Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy, and the Tigers get Max Scherzer, Daniel Schlereth, Austin Jackson, and Phil Coke.

Steal for the Tigers?

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Re: Big Yanks-D-Backs-Tigers deal goes down
« Reply #1: December 08, 2009, 02:46:03 PM »
Steal for the Tigers?

Agreed.  What was Josh Byrnes thinking.  Schlereth and Scherzer for E-Jack and I-Ken?

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« Reply #2: December 08, 2009, 03:09:18 PM »
Good deal for Yankees, good deal for Tigers, not a good deal for D'Backs.

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« Reply #3: December 08, 2009, 03:13:45 PM »
I'm not certain this is horrible for the Diamondbacks.  If you think about it:

 - They feel like Webb will return this year as healthy as he was in 2008 and prior.
 - They already have Dan Haren
 - Edwin Jackson is supposed to have HUGE upside and could realize this potential in a large ballpark.

If they have a 1-2-3 of Webb, Haren and Jackson that's an unbelievable front end of the rotation.  The Yankees had a marginal bullpen which is largely covered up by Rivera.  If the D-backs can get the same production out of their bullpen as the Yankees did, I think their top three starters could make them the favorite in the west which only really has the Dodgers as a strong team.

Add a couple of bats and the D-backs could be really good in the short-term with this deal.  It's the long-term that hurts them.

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Re: Big Yanks-D-Backs-Tigers deal goes down
« Reply #4: December 08, 2009, 03:26:28 PM »
What a haul for the Tigers.

I kind of agree with Minty, though.  Jackson's a nice addition for the D'Backs.

But this goes to show that the Nats couldn't have even dreamed of getting him without giving up something like Storen+Detwiler.

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« Reply #5: December 08, 2009, 03:27:22 PM »
I like this deal for both the Yankees AND the D-Backs. Curtis in that line-up is crazy to think about and like Minty said if the Webb can stay healthy they are going to have a nice trio at the front of their rotation.

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« Reply #6: December 08, 2009, 03:27:33 PM »
What a haul for the Tigers.

I kind of agree with Minty, though.  Jackson's a nice addition for the D'Backs.

But this goes to show that the Nats couldn't have even dreamed of getting him without giving up something like Storen+Detwiler.

Of course we don't have something like Storen+Detwiler, cause only Detwiler is tradeable out of those two, Storen not having been with the club a year yet.

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« Reply #7: December 08, 2009, 03:32:53 PM »
Of course we don't have something like Storen+Detwiler, cause only Detwiler is tradeable out of those two, Storen not having been with the club a year yet.

He can always be a PTBNL

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« Reply #8: December 08, 2009, 03:36:28 PM »
He can always be a PTBNL

That would be a LONG time to wait.  Must be a statute of limitations in there somewhere.

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Re: Big Yanks-D-Backs-Tigers deal goes down
« Reply #9: December 08, 2009, 04:33:27 PM »
I'm not certain this is horrible for the Diamondbacks.  If you think about it:

 - They feel like Webb will return this year as healthy as he was in 2008 and prior.
 - They already have Dan Haren
 - Edwin Jackson is supposed to have HUGE upside and could realize this potential in a large ballpark.

If they have a 1-2-3 of Webb, Haren and Jackson that's an unbelievable front end of the rotation.  The Yankees had a marginal bullpen which is largely covered up by Rivera.  If the D-backs can get the same production out of their bullpen as the Yankees did, I think their top three starters could make them the favorite in the west which only really has the Dodgers as a strong team.

Add a couple of bats and the D-backs could be really good in the short-term with this deal.  It's the long-term that hurts them.

I still think Jackson is a wild card, Scherzer was very good at home, lots of raw potential to be a high K guy.  Jackson had one good year and faded at the end.

I think the Yankees gave up a lot for Granderson, though they are likely to move Melky now.

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Re: Big Yanks-D-Backs-Tigers deal goes down
« Reply #10: December 08, 2009, 06:40:12 PM »
i was pissed when i first heard about the deal until i heard they gave up austin jackson. it's a decent deal for all sides.