Author Topic: 2012/13 Offseason Discussion Thread (Read 173029 times)

Ali the Baseball Cat · « **Reply #3300:** January 15, 2013, 10:18:35 AM »

Now wait a minute, I'm calling bull$hit here: "Aside from Bryce Harper, who stopped short of proposing a trade, this is the only person on the internet interested in bringing Stanton to DC"

It does not specifically say "only Nats fan", it says "only person".

Quote from: tomterp on January 15, 2013, 10:05:13 AM

Ray D gets a shoutout in Baseball Prospectus.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19297

JCA-CrystalCity · « **Reply #3301:** January 15, 2013, 11:04:50 AM »

How does the writer know that Ray D is a person? He could be a bot that generates trade proposals by using the roster, the NFA big board, and various prospect rankings to generate trade proposal postings.

Input trade target name. Use ranking of value. Assemble equivalent value of Nats pieces.

Very simple.

NationalHeat · « **Reply #3302:** January 15, 2013, 11:15:19 AM »

Well, considering we have no place to play him anyway, makes sense we are the fans least interested in making fake proposals.

tomterp · « **Reply #3303:** January 15, 2013, 11:35:42 AM »

Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on January 15, 2013, 10:18:35 AM

Now wait a minute, I'm calling bull$hit here: "Aside from Bryce Harper, who stopped short of proposing a trade, this is the only person on the internet interested in bringing Stanton to DC"

It does not specifically say "only Nats fan", it says "only person".

I took it to be tongue in cheek. He was just trying to put something from every club's fans out there.

Ali the Baseball Cat · « **Reply #3304:** January 15, 2013, 11:42:47 AM »

I just found it amusing because Stanton's biggest fanboi is a regular poster here.

Quote from: tomterp on January 15, 2013, 11:35:42 AM

I took it to be tongue in cheek. He was just trying to put something from every club's fans out there.

Slateman · « **Reply #3305:** January 15, 2013, 12:40:42 PM »

Quote from: Ali the Baseball Cat on January 15, 2013, 10:18:35 AM

Now wait a minute, I'm calling bull$hit here: "Aside from Bryce Harper, who stopped short of proposing a trade, this is the only person on the internet interested in bringing Stanton to DC"

It does not specifically say "only Nats fan", it says "only person".

Right here baby. I've been on this gravy train for a while

Quote from: NationalHeat on January 15, 2013, 11:15:19 AM

Well, considering we have no place to play him anyway, makes sense we are the fans least interested in making fake proposals.

We play him in LF. Bryce in RF. Werth and his 256/.349/.407 career here in DC can either sit on the bench or be traded to the Dodgers.

welch · « **Reply #3306:** January 15, 2013, 12:55:32 PM »

I feel honored to belong to the same message board!!!

Kevrock · « **Reply #3307:** January 15, 2013, 01:25:09 PM »

He should have come to the real Nats message board, we had pages of dumb posts about it.

TylerDC · « **Reply #3308:** January 15, 2013, 02:02:18 PM »

Twitter saying we signed Rafael Soriano? I don't know.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #3309:** January 15, 2013, 02:11:23 PM »

Quote from: TylerDC on January 15, 2013, 02:02:18 PM

Twitter saying we signed Rafael Soriano? I don't know.

Really? I'm not seeing this. That'd be sweet, though.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #3310:** January 15, 2013, 02:14:28 PM »

Wait, here it is:

Quote from: HECTOR GOMEZ ‏@hgomez27

Breaking News: Rafael Soriano signs two-years, US$28 million deal with Nationals. @MLB @mlbtraderumors
Rafael Soriano: "I thank God for the opportunity to be with Nationals".
Rafael Soriano: "I'm very happy to be part of this family, and now we just need to go to Spring Training and start to work".
Rafael Soriano: "I'm very excited to get to Spring Training and get together with my new teammates, so we'll see what happens"

Upark25 · « **Reply #3311:** January 15, 2013, 02:14:32 PM »

not seeing it either, but if we could get Soriano and Vazquez to add to this pitching staff and lineup easy 100+win season.

houston-nat · « **Reply #3312:** January 15, 2013, 02:15:05 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on January 15, 2013, 02:11:23 PM

Really? I'm not seeing this. That'd be sweet, though.

It's originating from two Spanish language guys, Martin Rodriguez @martinrodiv and Hector Gomez @hgomez27. Looks like they're in the DR, which is Soriano's home country.

Not buying it yet. But.

houston-nat · « **Reply #3313:** January 15, 2013, 02:16:00 PM »

Jeff Passan has it now.

houston-nat · « **Reply #3314:** January 15, 2013, 02:16:13 PM »

@JeffPassan
Source: Rafael Soriano agrees to two-year, $28M deal with Nationals. Deal contains vesting option for third year. Story coming on Y! Sports.

TylerDC · « **Reply #3315:** January 15, 2013, 02:16:33 PM »

28m for a 1.2 WAR player? A righty? Am I missing something?

Upark25 · « **Reply #3316:** January 15, 2013, 02:16:45 PM »

awesome Rizzo going all in

HalfSmokes · « **Reply #3317:** January 15, 2013, 02:18:26 PM »

that's a lot to pay for a set up man- is Storen on the block?

houston-nat · « **Reply #3318:** January 15, 2013, 02:18:36 PM »

created a separate thread

PebbleBall · « **Reply #3319:** January 15, 2013, 02:22:11 PM »

Quote from: TylerDC on January 15, 2013, 02:16:33 PM

28m for a 1.2 WAR player? A righty? Am I missing something?

You can't judge relievers on the same scale, and it's just money.

Slateman · « **Reply #3320:** January 15, 2013, 02:32:42 PM »

Storen & Rendon for Stanton!!!

Kevrock · « **Reply #3321:** January 15, 2013, 02:40:13 PM »

how about no bear

NJ Ave · « **Reply #3322:** January 15, 2013, 02:40:24 PM »

WPA (win probably added) is generally accepted as better for relievers, although not perfect. Soriano is 6th among relievers over the past 5 years in WPA at almost 2 wins a season.

Last 3 years? Soriano is FIRST in WPA. So we just added the best reliever in the majors.

NJ Ave · « **Reply #3323:** January 15, 2013, 02:41:14 PM »

Also, you gotta wonder if something's coming with Morse and Clippard/Storen, amirite?

houston-nat · « **Reply #3324:** January 15, 2013, 02:42:08 PM »

Quote from: NJ Ave on January 15, 2013, 02:41:14 PM

Also, you gotta wonder if something's coming with Morse and Clippard/Storen, amirite?

Yeah, Morse and Clippard/Storen seems inevitable at this point, and it will bring back something nice and shiny.