Author Topic: The "Former Nat Watch" Thread (2011) (Read 43914 times)

The Chief · « **Reply #625:** September 28, 2011, 10:23:59 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 10:21:26 AM

96 games in the OF is almost 70 NOT in the OF. C'mon.

Did anyone on this team play more than 96 games in LF this year? Serious question.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #626:** September 28, 2011, 10:24:27 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 10:21:26 AM

96 games in the OF is almost 70 NOT in the OF. C'mon.

Oh you got me there.

- Henry Rodriguez allows one and a half runners per inning. That's really really bad.
- He leads the NL in wild pitches.
- He has the third highest walk rate 6.9 BB/9 in baseball among pitchers with 60 IP.
- He walks 15.3% of all batters he faces, second worst in baseball among pitchers with 60 IP.

I'm sorry you like him because he throws 100. That doesn't make him very good.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #627:** September 28, 2011, 10:28:44 AM »

Quote from: The Chief on September 28, 2011, 10:23:59 AM

Did anyone on this team play more than 96 games in LF this year? Serious question.

It's highly unlikely, but Nix hit mucho dingers and Hammer played bench for 32 of his games.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #628:** September 28, 2011, 10:29:25 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 10:28:44 AM

It's highly unlikely, but Nix hit mucho dingers and Hammer played bench for 32 of his games.

I'm sorry, 28 HR's seems to be a lot more than 16.

Hell, 21 HR's as an OF'er seems to be a lot more than 16... I need to check my math, though.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #629:** September 28, 2011, 10:32:03 AM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on September 28, 2011, 10:29:25 AM

I'm sorry, 28 HR's seems to be a lot more than 16.

Hell, 21 HR's as an OF'er seems to be a lot more than 16... I need to check my math, though.

You play the apples and oranges card for Dunn all the freaking time, have some consistency

Face it, a healthy Zim all season would have meant a winning record. This was a damn well constructed squad.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #630:** September 28, 2011, 10:33:51 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 10:32:03 AM

You play the apples and oranges card for Dunn all the freaking time, have some consistency

Face it, a healthy Zim all season would have meant a winning record. This was a damn well constructed squad.

What the freak are you even talking about? You can't even talk objectively about HROD/Hammer trade. It turned out bad for the Nats this year.

What does Zimmerman have to do with this argument, AT ALL?

PANatsFan · « **Reply #631:** September 28, 2011, 10:35:16 AM »

Quote from: Lintyfresh85 on September 28, 2011, 10:33:51 AM

What the freak are you even talking about? You can't even talk objectively about HROD/Hammer trade. It turned out bad for the Nats this year.

What does Zimmerman have to do with this argument, AT ALL?

1) Hammer very well might have sucked in DC, since you claim that Dunn would have been awesome here still.

2) The team didn't need hammer, they needed a healthy Zim.

QED MOTHAfreakA

The Chief · « **Reply #632:** September 28, 2011, 10:37:56 AM »

Unless either of you have a crystal ball that sees into alternate universes, this argument is purely speculative.

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #633:** September 28, 2011, 10:39:05 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 10:35:16 AM

1) Hammer very well might have sucked in DC, since you claim that Dunn would have been awesome here still.

2) The team didn't need hammer, they needed a healthy Zim.

QED MOTHAfreakA

1. You're trying to bring up arguments not pertaining to Hammer/HRod because you've lost, and you're deflecting the questions, per usual.

2. If you asked me did the Nats need Ryan Zimmerman this year... I would have said yes. The question was who was better this year, HROD/Hammer. The answer is Willingham. If you don't want to admit that, that's fine... but stop trying to change the subject.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #634:** September 28, 2011, 10:44:45 AM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 10:28:44 AM

It's highly unlikely, but Nix hit mucho dingers and Hammer played bench for 32 of his games.

Nix - 350 PA, 16HRs, .251/.300/.452/.752
Willingham - 556 PA, 28 HRs, .247/.333/.475/.808

If you're trying to imply one is better than the other this doesn't support that.

Nathan · « **Reply #635:** September 28, 2011, 10:46:24 AM »

1.

2.

Two! Two a-holes, ah ah ah!

spidernat · « **Reply #636:** September 28, 2011, 12:34:59 PM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 28, 2011, 07:50:06 AM

1) HROD
2)He can DH, less wear and tear on his body
3) Morse would have had a worse season if he'd been in LF the whole time
4) HROD
5) Daddy Lerner needed to save on Hammer's arbitration number

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #637:** September 28, 2011, 05:40:09 PM »

I think it's pretty clear that Hammer was better this year than HRod and that Hammer could have helped us more this year. If he was playing left field for us and Morse was playing 1B for us all year, we'd probably have a better record than we do now.

With that being said, Hammer may have gotten us maybe 3 more games? In the greater scheme of things, that's not a lot. And then he would have been gone. HRod could help us out for the next several years.

Also - going into the year, I would have been pretty apprehensive if we were relying on Hammer to play 130+ games in LF and Morse to have the kind of year he actually did have this year.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #638:** September 28, 2011, 07:31:27 PM »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on September 28, 2011, 05:40:09 PM

HRod could help us out for the next several years.

Maybe, he could also continue his Dr. Jeckyl-Mr. Hyde routine and be out of baseball by July of next year while we continue to strikeout and leave runners stranded.

lesterm · « **Reply #639:** September 29, 2011, 03:36:45 AM »

Trading Hammer was stupid. Guy had a monster year in an ultimate pitcher's park.

RobDibblesGhost · « **Reply #640:** September 29, 2011, 11:31:39 PM »

Manny Acta (remember him?) had his 2013 option picked up by the Indians today. I wonder if they will regret it...

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #641:** September 29, 2011, 11:46:32 PM »

Quote from: RobDibblesGhost on September 29, 2011, 11:31:39 PM

Manny Acta (remember him?) had his 2013 option picked up by the Indians today. I wonder if they will regret it...

Not if they get good players...

That said, the rumor is, though he denies it, that Acta got tossed intentionally so Tolman could manage a game before he retires and deals with his Parkinsons Disease. If it's true, that's a class move by Acta, IMO. Acta denies, this, btw.

http://www.ourmidland.com/sports/ap_sports/baseball/article_8cbc4404-7fb0-574f-a53f-c069b71514d6.html

Nathan · « **Reply #642:** September 30, 2011, 12:55:56 AM »

Acta always seemed like a class act.

NatsDad14 · « **Reply #643:** September 30, 2011, 03:19:48 PM »

That is the only way Acta would ever get himself thrown out of a game. I think he gets paid by games finished. Only explanation really.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #644:** September 30, 2011, 03:50:14 PM »

Quote from: lesterm on September 29, 2011, 03:36:45 AM

Trading Hammer was stupid. Guy had a monster year in an ultimate pitcher's park.

You don't think 5 more years of Henry is a good thing?

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #645:** September 30, 2011, 03:57:55 PM »

It'll be interesting to see in five years if he even reaches one year of Hammer in terms of WAR.

NatsDad14 · « **Reply #646:** September 30, 2011, 04:53:28 PM »

Quote from: PANatsFan on September 30, 2011, 03:50:14 PM

You don't think 5 more years of Henry is a good thing?

5 years of walking guys is not a good thing.

Would you say 5 years of Jason Simontacchi is a good thing?

The Chief · « **Reply #647:** September 30, 2011, 04:57:16 PM »

He's just trolling lester.

MrsMorse · « **Reply #648:** October 07, 2011, 01:32:45 PM »

Quote from: Tyler Durden on September 28, 2011, 06:38:29 AM

Hammer just hit his 29th last night. I know we've been over this countless times, but having Morse at 1B and Hammer in LF would have worked out pretty nicely this year. I still get why we needed to trade him and HRod has shown some promise recently, but keeping Hammer would have helped solve at least some of our offensive problems this year.

Ben Goessling is writing an occasional "what if" series, which started today with What if ... the Nationals hadn't traded Josh Willingham? He runs through this scenario a little bit.

(Also annoyed that Ben Goessling and I are the same age, yet he has such a sweet-ass job.)

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #649:** October 07, 2011, 01:57:35 PM »

He lost me when he said .771 OPS is almost as good as .810 OPS.