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Roger Clemens -- point -counterpoint
« Topic Start: February 11, 2008, 04:34:03 PM »
Some interesting reading on the Roger Clemens situation over the weekend -- with two threads on Roger--the--truth--dodger here in this forum, I thought it would be best to start a new one to share this info -- sorry if there is any confusion.

But here's the skinny: 

First, Clemens' PR team issues a report showing how Roger's late career turnaround is not out of the ordinary when compared to other pitchers.  Basically, it compares Clemens' career longevity with Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, and Curt Schilling. 

http://www.rogerclemensreport.com/ 

(It's a pdf file, and didn't open well on my system, so I offer a caution)

Then, a group of professors from the University of Pennsylvania offered their analysis in the New York Times.  In so many words, these men analyzed Roger's career against all pitchers from 1969 on who met certain criteria, and concluded that Roger's late career bloom was quite atypical:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/cs-080210-clemens-report-deceiving,0,5851404.story

Then, Roger's camp shot back again:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/02/11/2008-02-11_team_roger_clemens_rips_into_wharton_sta.html

How much more will Roger skirt around things?  How many more rings will open in this circus? 

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Re: Roger Clemens -- point -counterpoint
« Reply #1: February 11, 2008, 04:50:30 PM »
I gotta feeling that Clemens and team are getting in over their heads in the battle of the stats.  But hey, they opened the door themselves.

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Re: Roger Clemens -- point -counterpoint
« Reply #2: February 11, 2008, 05:35:49 PM »
There's also a point/counterpoint going on between Clemens' lawyers and Rep. Henry Waxman:

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080210&content_id=2370043&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

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Re: Roger Clemens -- point -counterpoint
« Reply #3: February 11, 2008, 05:37:47 PM »
Side note re. the pdf reading issues, it may be that those who have been having problems opening and reading the Clemens Report file do not have the latest version of the free Acrobat Reader software installed. You might want to try doing that and see whether it helps any. Link below:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html