Author Topic: Nats sign Oliver Perez to Minor League deal (Read 3201 times)

NatsTheFats · « **Reply #75:** March 23, 2011, 05:19:43 PM »

Quote from: Nathan on March 23, 2011, 05:16:30 PM

Fixed

I feel like he's part of the family now.

PC · « **Reply #76:** March 23, 2011, 05:20:05 PM »

Quote from: JMUalumni on March 23, 2011, 05:14:13 PM

Read Nathan's post if you want to know who he is. Since he has never been on an ML squad, he IS on a minor league deal. All this cost the Nationals is 25,000$. They can cut bait with him whenever they want with almost no consequence.

I did read it but I'm still wondering why this signing was made? It appears to be a signing of "no consequence". Why would they make a signing of no consequence?

JMUalumni · « **Reply #77:** March 23, 2011, 05:22:49 PM »

Quote from: PC on March 23, 2011, 05:20:05 PM

I did read it but I'm still wondering why this signing was made? It appears to be a signing of "no consequence". Why would they make a signing of no consequence?

I don't see what the big deal is. They can take a look at him for a few weeks and then cut him if they want. Strasburg was going to get moved to the 60-day DL anyway. If anything, it probably is just organizational depth.

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #78:** March 23, 2011, 05:26:12 PM »

Quote from: PC on March 23, 2011, 05:20:05 PM

I did read it but I'm still wondering why this signing was made? It appears to be a signing of "no consequence". Why would they make a signing of no consequence?

It's not a signing of no consequence. It's a player that can be cut with minimal consequence.

NatsTheFats · « **Reply #79:** March 23, 2011, 05:27:10 PM »

Quote from: JMUalumni on March 23, 2011, 05:22:49 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. They can take a look at him for a few weeks and then cut him if they want. Strasburg was going to get moved to the 60-day DL anyway. If anything, it probably is just organizational depth.

Same here.

No way he makes it into May unless he really shows major improvement.

PC · « **Reply #80:** March 23, 2011, 05:30:52 PM »

Quote from: DPMOmaha on March 23, 2011, 05:26:12 PM

It's not a signing of no consequence. It's a player that can be cut with minimal consequence.

Ok, why would they make a signing of minimal consequence?

DPMOmaha · « **Reply #81:** March 23, 2011, 05:34:28 PM »

Quote from: PC on March 23, 2011, 05:30:52 PM

Ok, why would they make a signing of minimal consequence?

Because hard throwing left handers who have had success at every level he's been at don't grow on trees, perhaps?

Lintyfresh85 · « **Reply #82:** March 23, 2011, 05:35:13 PM »

If anything Hyde is interesting because he now takes up a 40 man roster spot. Must be something the Nats see in him.

Dump him in AAA... see what he's got.

Also, it's not like the Nats signed the guy of the FA scrap heap. They claimed him off waivers... totally different process.

PANatsFan · « **Reply #83:** March 23, 2011, 05:35:24 PM »

Quote from: Nathan on March 23, 2011, 05:16:30 PM

Fixed

I doubt he's 56 still, that's Atilano's number

Nathan · « **Reply #84:** March 23, 2011, 05:36:26 PM »

Well dammit, at least it says Washington Nationals now! Also, they had Morse's number as 12 still in the roster template, fixed that up as well.

JMW IV · « **Reply #85:** March 23, 2011, 06:07:09 PM »

I understand that Perez has been a bad pitcher. but we aren't paying him anything if he doesn't make Majors, and then its league min. people are acting as if we signed him to some mega deal. we aren't paying him 12m, are we? is he guaranteed a spot in the ML rotation, regardless of his performance?

if he sucks, we let him go and pay him nothing, or very little.

if he recovers his form, then we pay him very little, and the Mets get to pay him 12m to pitch for someone else.

I am not seeing the reason for any of the

going on.

hammondsnats · « **Reply #86:** March 23, 2011, 06:09:58 PM »

Quote from: JMW IV on March 23, 2011, 06:07:09 PM

I understand that Perez has been a bad pitcher. but we aren't paying him anything if he doesn't make Majors, and then its league min. people are acting as if we signed him to some mega deal. we aren't paying him 12m, are we? is he guaranteed a spot in the ML rotation, regardless of his performance?

if he sucks, we let him go and pay him nothing, or very little.

if he recovers his form, then we pay him very little, and the Mets get to pay him 12m to pitch for someone else.

I am not seeing the reason for any of the going on.

yeah there's always a chance he finds his old self working with spin, we'll see. but when it comes time to call upon another starter, if he's not doing well, hopefully we don't bring him up just on the name recognition alone.

KnorrForYourMoney · « **Reply #87:** March 23, 2011, 06:22:48 PM »

Quote from: JMW IV on March 23, 2011, 06:07:09 PM

I understand that Perez has been a bad pitcher. but we aren't paying him anything if he doesn't make Majors, and then its league min. people are acting as if we signed him to some mega deal. we aren't paying him 12m, are we? is he guaranteed a spot in the ML rotation, regardless of his performance?

if he sucks, we let him go and pay him nothing, or very little.

if he recovers his form, then we pay him very little, and the Mets get to pay him 12m to pitch for someone else.

I am not seeing the reason for any of the going on.

Yep. It always surprises me how everyone goes into hysterics over these nearly inconsequential signings.

Nathan · « **Reply #88:** March 23, 2011, 06:27:04 PM »

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sportsfan882 · « **Reply #89:** March 23, 2011, 06:29:11 PM »

I'm with PC, this franchise makes no damn sense sometimes. Lee Hyde blows. He's Minor League fodder. Doesn't have the command to pitch in the Majors. We have more than enough of those types and I'd hate to see him block a legitimate relief prospect in the Minors.

JMW IV · « **Reply #90:** March 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM »

Quote from: sportsfan882 on March 23, 2011, 06:29:11 PM

I'm with PC, this franchise makes no damn sense sometimes. Lee Hyde blows. He's Minor League fodder. Doesn't have the command to pitch in the Majors. We have more than enough of those types and I'd hate to see him block a legitimate relief prospect in the Minors.

who the hell is Lee Hyde, and what does he have to do with Oliver Perez?

blue911 · « **Reply #91:** March 23, 2011, 06:47:30 PM »

Quote from: JMW IV on March 23, 2011, 06:41:14 PM

who the hell is Lee Hyde, and what does he have to do with Oliver Perez?

He's a guy the Nats picked up off the waiver wire. I'd assume Roy Clark (ex-braves scouting director) recommended him.

MarquisDeSade · « **Reply #92:** March 23, 2011, 07:04:44 PM »

I just hate Oliver Perez and thinks he's trash - both as a pitcher and as a human being. Not as bad as Luis Castillo but still a scumbag.

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/09/why_mets_skipped_visit_to_walt.html

PANatsFan · « **Reply #93:** March 23, 2011, 07:33:54 PM »

Quote from: MarquisDeSade on March 23, 2011, 07:04:44 PM

I just hate Oliver Perez and thinks he's trash - both as a pitcher and as a human being. Not as bad as Luis Castillo but still a scumbag.

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/09/why_mets_skipped_visit_to_walt.html

Castillo is a craphead

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #94:** March 23, 2011, 07:56:17 PM »

minor league deal. Not an issue as long as they don't look at him as anything but dumpster diving. If they can adjust mechanics and get something out of him, great. But we are beyond the point where the garbage heap is the source of serious options.

PC · « **Reply #95:** March 23, 2011, 08:07:02 PM »

Quote from: shoeshineboy on March 23, 2011, 07:56:17 PM

But we are beyond the point where the garbage heap is the source of serious options.

Are we?

shoeshineboy · « **Reply #96:** March 23, 2011, 08:17:59 PM »

Yes. Which is why it would be pathetic otherwise.

natstime · « **Reply #97:** March 23, 2011, 08:49:48 PM »

We are just paying for Wang to have a buddy.

Ali the Baseball Cat · « **Reply #98:** March 23, 2011, 09:00:31 PM »

Mets fan houseguest just laughed at me when I told him.

Tyler Durden · « **Reply #99:** March 23, 2011, 09:43:05 PM »

Quote from: JMW IV on March 23, 2011, 06:07:09 PM

I understand that Perez has been a bad pitcher. but we aren't paying him anything if he doesn't make Majors, and then its league min. people are acting as if we signed him to some mega deal. we aren't paying him 12m, are we? is he guaranteed a spot in the ML rotation, regardless of his performance?

if he sucks, we let him go and pay him nothing, or very little.

if he recovers his form, then we pay him very little, and the Mets get to pay him 12m to pitch for someone else.

I am not seeing the reason for any of the going on.

It's embarrassing, no matter how you slice it. The guy is a national joke - at least in baseball world. He was their version of Bruney, but worse, since he was being paid $12 million so they had to keep trotting him out there only to see him fail again and again. And again.

There's just some baggage with him that makes it not worth it. Let the Royals or Pirates have him. The Nats have enough bad press and negative vibes from seasons past hanging around them already. Don't need this guy to make the stench even worse.