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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #100: January 07, 2014, 02:48:53 PM »
It's supposed to be around 50 in the D.C. area this weekend.
And rain. Naturally.

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« Reply #102: January 09, 2014, 03:59:30 PM »
Interesting article as are some of the comments below it.

I worked on a study years ago related to climate change and one thing I am always interested in is that folks never seem to debate how long CO2 and other GHGs stay in the atmosphere. Copied to the first item below from an EPA web page.  Second is an article from the Guardian.  Was uncertain 20 years ago and apparently still is--there is a big difference if CO2 dissipates in 20 years vs. 200 years or thousands of years.  If it's the latter then we are some deep trouble as it seems there is no doubt we have emitted lots of CO2 since the industrial revolution and continue to do so.  Of course, maybe we will get lucky and have another mini ice age to offset the greehouse gases. 

"How long do they stay in the atmosphere?

Each of these gases can remain in the atmosphere for different amounts of time, ranging from a few years to thousands of years. All of these gases remain in the atmosphere long enough to become well mixed, meaning that the amount that is measured in the atmosphere is roughly the same all over the world, regardless of the source of the emissions."

"The lifetime in the air of CO2, the most significant man-made greenhouse gas, is probably the most difficult to determine, because there are several processes that remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Between 65% and 80% of CO2 released into the air dissolves into the ocean over a period of 20–200 years. The rest is removed by slower processes that take up to several hundreds of thousands of years, including chemical weathering and rock formation. This means that once in the atmosphere, carbon dioxide can continue to affect climate for thousands of years."


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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #103: January 09, 2014, 04:24:29 PM »
interesting.  I recall reading that while there's a lot of concern over methane release from Greenland, it's tempered by the fact that Methane doesn't last very long in the atmosphere (though it traps far more heat than CO2). 

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #104: January 10, 2014, 10:21:31 AM »
Freezing rain this morning. Fun to walk outside an nearly eat crap.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #105: January 10, 2014, 02:02:07 PM »
Just got a flash flood warning through Sunday.

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« Reply #106: January 10, 2014, 03:44:15 PM »
interesting.  I recall reading that while there's a lot of concern over methane release from Greenland, it's tempered by the fact that Methane doesn't last very long in the atmosphere (though it traps far more heat than CO2).
I believe the gases they created to replace CFCs are also GHGs and last for thousands of years.  Luckily there are not as many of those and CO2 is still the predominant GHG.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #107: January 10, 2014, 04:09:11 PM »
A positively balmy 34 degrees.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #108: January 10, 2014, 05:53:55 PM »
I believe the gases they created to replace CFCs are also GHGs and last for thousands of years.  Luckily there are not as many of those and CO2 is still the predominant GHG.
Yes. 

In terms of US emissions, the biggest pollutants EPA has listed, weighted by a scale that accounts for potency and tonnage are Carbon Dioxide (84% of US emissions), Mehtane (9%), and Nitrous Oxide (5%). 
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases.html
About 2% are flourinated gases, including some CFC substitutes.

I guess black carbon was not listed because it is shorter lived.


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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #109: January 20, 2014, 10:14:17 AM »
Looks like we're going to get a good snowfall tomorrow.  This storm was not really on the radar until yesterday, now the Capital Weather Gang folks are saying most of the area has a good chance of 4 or more inches.   Looks like the snow drought at DCA (last snowfall of 2" or more was January 2011) is going to end.  And with the cold air that will be in place, there's not going be that dreaded rain/snow line!

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« Reply #111: January 20, 2014, 01:27:15 PM »
And of course, I left my laptop at work.

I think I'll drive in at 5 tomorrow, workout in the gym, then grab my laptop and drive home in the snow.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #112: January 20, 2014, 05:00:27 PM »
I'd meet you for a cup of coffee at the Dunkins by the CC metro.

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« Reply #113: January 20, 2014, 05:01:17 PM »
And of course, I left my laptop at work.

I think I'll drive in at 5 tomorrow, workout in the gym, then grab my laptop and drive home in the snow.

I'll get up at 8 and watch the Golf Channel.   ;)

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #114: January 20, 2014, 05:07:34 PM »
Snow projections are inching upward.  4-7" now for much of the DC region.

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« Reply #115: January 20, 2014, 06:16:28 PM »
Sorry, but I think the ground is too warm for anything to stick. Maybe on the grass, but not on much else. I'll believe it when I see it. But I have been wrong before.  :lol:

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #116: January 20, 2014, 07:09:31 PM »
Sorry, but I think the ground is too warm for anything to stick. Maybe on the grass, but not on much else. I'll believe it when I see it. But I have been wrong before.  :lol:

Supposed to get cold tonight. Then stay cold.


I don't think much will stick, but what snow there is will melt and turn to ice. Which will  cut me off from biking to work :(

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #118: January 20, 2014, 07:49:47 PM »
Yep. And 1" per hour rates.  No schools have closed yet though.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #119: January 20, 2014, 10:52:35 PM »
Yep. And 1" per hour rates.  No schools have closed yet though.


They have now!

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #120: January 20, 2014, 10:53:55 PM »
yeah, looks like everything is shutting down, unfortunately I work from home though so normal work day.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #121: January 20, 2014, 11:06:17 PM »
Ground is still hard here. If and when it starts, its going to lay.

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #122: January 20, 2014, 11:15:18 PM »
Refreshing OPM.gov like a madman right now to see if I have work tomorrow

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Re: The Weather (2014)
« Reply #123: January 20, 2014, 11:16:15 PM »
Why couldn't it snow on Monday instead :|

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« Reply #124: January 20, 2014, 11:51:08 PM »
NWS now says 6-8" over much of the area:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/winterstorm/